The Death of Everything and Nothing? was Re: Nietzche and Christianity
snedeker at SPAMconcentric.net
Sun Feb 11 18:36:28 MST 2001
Josh has made some interesting points here. God does seem to have come back
to life. Nietzsche pronouncement seems to have been a little premature.
Nietzsche killed God; Foucault killed man; Baudrillard killed reality, and
Judith Butler killed truth. or perhaps she has only been torturing it?
things do seem a little hopeless in a Baudrillardian universe. this seems to
have been one of Josh's main points. I could not agree more. he reminds me
of Schoppenhauer's pessimism. as Nietzsche said about his former teacher,
"then pull the trigger and end it all." both Schopenhauer and Baudrillard
went on livingwell and talking. just talking heads, if you ask me?
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Subject: The Death of Everything and Nothing? was Re: Nietzche and
> Everything is dead, and finally nothing is dying as well. Not a direct
> quote, but something that comes to mind when reading that "God is dead"
> Although Nietszche proclaimed "God is dead." while already having no
> in God, we are then to assume that his proclamation wasn't directly at an
> existing God(that may or may not exist) but towards the spirtual morality
> the Christians(that did exist with their conceptions of God).
> Already from this atheist stance, other "philosophers', such as jean
> baudrillard and Francois lyotard have taken quite similar paths, taking
> atheism's denial of God towards denial of reality and the denial of
> "progressive history" and all that is contained within it. An athiesm of
> God, reality and of history.
> I wil certainly agree with nietszche's, Marx's, and baudrillards
> analysis of reality, history, God. Everything does seem to become
> exhausted, dehydrated to a point. For baudrillard, there is no end to
> I must reject that. Although perhaps Baudrillard's analysis may hold true
> to an aspect, I can not deny his ideas and truths, but it will only make
> weaker if i succumb to his conclusions. I will take on this "pessimism"
> just as we will confront the capitalist system.
> However, despite what Nietszche, Baudrillard, Debord have to say about God
> and reality, nothing really ever becomes dead. It lies dormat, sleeps and
> hybernates, until it is resurrected again for another world to embrace and
> exhaust it again.
> in solidarity
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