The Relevance of the Western Left

Xxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx at xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Wed Feb 14 15:31:43 MST 2001


  Well, Sid, you hate Chinese leadership. we got it! but don't fall into a
sectarian mistake putting the blame on the shoulders of leaders alone.Be
judicious in your criticism. Now I am busy to reply in details so I will raise a
couple of points..   1) Put the issues in an international context. The reversal of
Chinese socialism (whatever it is exactly meant by this) is unavoidable,
considering China's integration into the world economy, US fostering of regional
capitalism through manipulative trade arrangements, and defeat of socialism in
general.  For example, the1985 Plaze accord hepled facilitate China's East Asian
regionality, triggering foreign direct investment away from Japan towards China
and ASEAN nations. Although the strategy of US imperialism was different, the
same happened to Fidel after US imposed embargo. To my knowledge, Fidel
continued to have trade relations with European countries. It would be absurd
and unrealistic to blame Fidel for deviating from socialism just because it had
no other way but to keep its economy going in the face of  intensifying hunger
spurred by US embargo.   2) The breadth of American hegemony is well evident in
China's efforts to "polish its application"  to WTO, and America's demand for
political and economic reform to approve China's entry. China might have
committed an error to be willing to enter  WTO. However, US *still* wants to see
a virgin non-communist China (not a distorted party socialism!) to make China
eligible for WTO. That is why, it is demanding bourgeois political reforms as
part of an attempt to spur an absolute regime change (in the same way they
fucked Milo, btw!) Central to American policy is "to shape and channel China's
position in the world market. so as to block the emergence of another Japan". I
recommend you to have a look at Bruce Cumming's article to see the role US
imperialism played in bringing down the curtain on Chinese socialism, and on
developmental states of Korea and Japan (which it encouraged in the case of
latter against  the former). ( The Korea and t! ! he End of Late Development",
NLR, 1998, no:231).     3) You say that institutionalized leftism is corrupt in
China. I read this everyday in New York Times and Washington Post.. I wonder
what the uninstitutionalized left is doing to resist neo-liberalism and their
*specific* policy proposals to rejuvenate socialism. If it is "socialism from
below" absurdity, just pass it because it a romantic version of socialism, which
will help nothing but to exacerbate the reversal of Chinese socialism further.  
4) May be Henry can help me figure out several issues. What are the extend to
which China is applying market reforms? What is the specific policy of
government? What are alternative policies proposed to resist neo-liberalism? Is
the Chinese left anti-imperialist? or is it just anti-government? or is it both?
  adios   Mine  

----- Original Message ----- From: S Chatterjee To: marxism at lists.panix.com
Sent: 2/14/01 3:47:09 PM Subject: Re: The Relevance of the Western Left

--- Gorojovsky <Gorojovsky at arnet.com.ar> wrote:   > the Chinese - > thus cast in
the mould of a general socialist view > of the world- version of the > youthful
USA of the mid 1700s.  There would be very > solid reasons supporting > this
path, even from a strictly _socialist_ point of > view.   But Liu Shaochi, Deng,
Peng, Zemin, etc do not have a socialist view of the world. Their line all along
was the bourgeois/elitist line which, all through the long and tortuous course
of the Chinese revolution and beyond, was in opposition to Mao's mass line
(Mao's group was a minority in the party for most of the time). As said  before,
they are not socialists in any sense at all, look at their concrete actions and
not their words. They may hang Mao's portrait in Tiananmen and pay lip service
to socialism - but it is a mirage. Their concrete actions have been amply
documented by Hinton and Weil.   > The basic attitude, of course, is the
important > thing, which is mainly not to > wield to the mainstream view, not to
allow them to > defeat ourselves in the > battlefield that is the brain of each
one who reads > this.   The basic attitude should be governed by what is the
truth and not falsehood and smokescreens. And in the long run, it does not
matter what the mainstream media (whether of the west or east) say. The
mainstream media, anyway, reflects the viewpoint of the minority class in power.
But over the long run, the truth will emerge however much it is tried to be
suppressed now.   The reasons for the capitalist restoration in China (and in
Russia also) are because of internal contradictions in those societies, and not
external causes. That is, it is no use blaming the western or any other left for
non-support to China or the western mass media for the course of events in China
from 1978 on. The reasons for the re-emergence of the new owning class in these
societies, and as a consequence, a reversal in the direction of the transition,
are to be sought in the historical conditions of these societies. This is a
crucial topic in itself.   Sid            
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