[Fwd: Gender depowerment: UNDP data on male and female suicidein the world system]

George Snedeker snedeker at SPAMconcentric.net
Fri Feb 23 19:24:24 MST 2001


in 1897, Emile Durkheim wrote a book called SUICIDE. in this work, Durkheim
established the fact that different suicide rates are the result of social
factors. we can argue against some of the aspects of Durkheim's argument.
however, the social causal nature of the changes in the rates should be
taken as a given. in 1897, the idea that suicide was an individual pathology
was common. today, we might be willing to admit that depression plays an
important role, but this  does not explain why people in some countries are
more depressed than others.

George
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Abdo <aabdo at webtv.net>
To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Gender depowerment: UNDP data on male and female
suicidein the world system]


> I don't want to get into the meaning of the differences between the
> sexes in suicide rates throughout the world.      However, these tables
> thoroughly debunk the entire premise that depression is primarily a
> genetic problem, or chemical imbalance problem.     In other words,
> trying to tack on the capitalist medical model to analyzing depression,
> is a severely defective and unscientific methodology.
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> The variance, in the rates in different countries, shows the impact of
> cultural and social factors in determining the level of depression in
> various societies.    This is to say, that the environment plays a
> bigger role than physical disease states in causing this severe
> pyschological desequilibrium that results in suicide.
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> The same style overview of similar tables of data by country, would also
> rapidly implicate the overwhelming role of environmental and societal
> factors in causing eating disorders, and hyperactivity/ attention
> deficit disorders.
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