on Gadard

soil_ride soilride at SPAMemail.msn.com
Tue Jan 9 21:48:42 MST 2001

This is more on cinema, less on Godard

The Situationist Internationale once used to criticize the "spectacle
society" by saying that Godard was dead, especially to a society that
produces and consumes "spectacles".

The slogan was also turned onto one of the most prominent figures of the SI,
Guy Debord: "Guy Debord is dead."

Debord also made his own creative films.  "Howlings in favour of Sade" has a
quote that might as well speak for the entire generations of lost consumers
trying to find meaning in material hollywood bourgeois sellout cinema:
"Cinema is dead."

For anyone interested the transcript for the film "Howlings in favour of
Sade" is available online:


In solidarity

-----Original Message-----
From: George Snedeker <snedeker at concentric.net>
To: marxism at lists.panix.com <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: on Gadard

>Godard was once asked if his films had a beginning, middle and end. he is
>reported to have answered, "yes, but not in that order."

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