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Sat Jun 23 16:42:15 MDT 2001
mine's comment is on target here. perhaps the real difference between Marx
and Weber is one of methodology. they also had a different way of defining
capitalism and understanding its dynamics.
George> Yes, I agree with Jim. Young Weber was kind of sympathetic to Marx.
> got older, he dispensed with Marx significantly. For the early Weber, you
> should read _The Agrarian Sociology of Ancient Civilizations_ (Verso,
> 1998). There, Weber discusses the causes of the rise and decline of
> civilizations from a comparative perspective (Rome, Egypt, Mesopotamia,
> Israelbye, Xxxx
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> > From: Jim Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com>
> > To: marxism at lists.panix.com
> > Subject: Re: Weberian marxism
> > Date: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:37 PM
> > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:27:15 -0400 Ivonaldo Neres Leite
> > <ivonaldo.leite at netc.pt> writes:
> > > The expression weberian marxism was created by Merleau-Ponty. It's an
> > > expression utilized to refer to marxist tendency inheritor of Max
> > > Weber. It seems a paradox, can Marx and Weber be together? Is it
> > > possible? If we consider Luckács' theses, this connection is possible
> > > sometimes, because he uses the Weber's rationalization theory.
> > > Dispite
> > > of this, the expression weberian marxism almost is not
> > > utilized. Obvious, the Weber's background is not marxist, but it is
> > > not also that what Talcot Parsons affirms be. So is needful to
> > > research the relationship between the marxism and Weber.
> > Weber was in fact an admirer of Marx. In fact, he once said that
> > the integrity of a scholar could be assessed by determining his
> > attitude towards Marx and Nietzsche. The more positive the
> > scholar's attitude towards these two men, the greater
> > his integrity was likely to be. Weber was often very critical
> > of Marxism but the sort of Marxism that he was reacting
> > against was largely the economic determinist Marxism
> > of the Second International.
> > Lukacs as you probably know was in his youth a protege of
> > Weber.
> > Jim F.
> > >
> > > Ivonaldo Leite
> > >
> > >
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