Che Guevara

Mato Ska m_zehr at
Thu Jun 28 13:01:25 MDT 2001

Thanks Nestor. That's what I thought about Che's attitude towards Peron.

>From: "Gorojovsky" <Gorojovsky at>
>Reply-To: marxism at
>To: marxism at
>Subject: Re: Che Guevara
>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:20:17 -0300
>En relación a Che Guevara,
>el 27 Jun 01, a las 20:40, Louis Proyect dijo:
> > Che ... began an abortive engagement with a daughter of one of
> > Argentina's ruling class families, he scandalized them at a formal
> > by announcing that Winston Churchill was a "ratpack politican". This
> > family, as Anderson put it, was "supremely Anglophilic."
>As all of our oligarchy and, most important, our middle classes. The
>Argentinean Socialists were one of the most open-mouthed admirers of
>in fact. Guevara had an advantage on all these, in that his "ruined
>aristocracy" origin allowed him to be ironic, even sarcastic, with the
>class to
>which his family belonged. He was not, however, an anti-British patriot. In
>this, even Guevara could not escape his times and upbringing.
> >
> > The other interesting thing, relevant to Nestor's views on Marxism and
> > national question, is Che's close identification with Juan Peron whom he
> > viewed positively as a friend of Argentina's "shirtless". Apparently his
> > early Peronista views evolved into the kind of Marxism associated with
> > Cuban revolution.
>Certainly so. But he was not exactly a Peronist, not a vocal one at least
>should be understood, however, that in this would have been extremely
>-and sterile- in his milieu, more or less like supporting, say, Muammar
>Ghadaffi in the Israeli Knesset).  For all what I know, Guevara had some
>sympathy for a movement which he did not share. Some people from the
>side of the Radical Party, who were at the May Square on October 17th,
>have told me repeatedly that he had been there too, an onlooker just like
>though with some kind of sympathy towards what was happening there.
> > It would be useful to quote a childhood friend of Che's named Dolores
> > "In his eyes,
> > the twin evils in Latin America were the native oligarchies and the
> > States. ... He was convinced of the dark princes
> > of evil who directed every United States move abroad."
> >
>But in this, again, Guevara was a perfect child of his country and age.
>in British-dominated Argentina, anti-American anti-imperialism was not only
>tolerated but many times fostered even from some of the most reactionary
>corners of the political rainbow.
>This anti-imperialism reflects the fact that Argentinean and American
>were competitive, while Argentinean and British economies were
>The oligarchs and the British made a masterpiece of political cunning when
>managed to divert the Argentinean anti-imperialists against the US.
>Guevara, in
>this sense, was just one more among the crowd. Some fractions of the
>Argentinean working class, on the contrary, was more anti-British than
>American (although this can be said of very few workers, thanks to the
>stupidity of Mr. Spruille Braden).
>Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
>gorojovsky at

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