Jim Farmelant farmelantj at
Sun Mar 11 16:43:17 MST 2001

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:54:13 -0800 Sam Pawlett <rsp at> writes:
> Louis Proyect wrote:
> >
> > What I am looking for is books/articles that investigate topics
> like:
> >
> > 1. Kronstadt
> > 2. Makhno
> > 3. Spanish Civil War
> > 4. etc.
> >
> > Also, if anybody knows of a book titled something like "Marxism
> versus
> > Anarchism", I'd like to know about that as well just to see how
> the topic
> > had been treated previously.
> There was a long and not bad series 'Marxism and Anarchism' by
> Joseph
> Syemour in the Worker's Vanguard newspaper about 5 years ago.
> There's
> Chomsky's intro, written in the early 70's, to Daniel Guerin's book
> that
> tries to reconcile M&A (also for those who don't think Chom is a
> Marxist.) Here's some others:
> The Anarchist Papers 3vols. Black Rose. see Woodcock's essay that
> argues
> that Chomsky is a marxist rather than an anarchist

Chomsky as Marxist?  I think it would be more accurate to characterize
him as someone who freely draws upon Marxist analysis without
necessarily being a Marxist.  There is in his political writings a
certain nostalgia for an idealized "purer" capitalism that was supposed
to have existed sometime in the past.  Chomsky has often expressed
admiration for Adam Smith.  In Chomsky's view, social democratic
type reforms are justified as necessary state interventions
for restraining corporate power.  On the other hand his anarchist
do seem open to some questioning.  Chomsky has been in recent
years a member of the DSA, the Labor Party, and I believe also
hardly traditional anarchist organizations.  I suspect that Chomsky
is best characterized as a left social democrat with anarchist leanings.

> Post-Scarcity Anarchism. Murray Bookchin (the most Marxist of
> Anarchists) essay Listen Marxist!

Bookchin is a former Trot.  He has often presented his anarchism
in the form of a critique of Marxism.  And he attempts to retain for
the benefit of anarchism (to the dismay of many other anarchists),
many crucial aspects of Marxism including
dialectics, historical materialism, the labor theory of value amongst
others.  At the same time it should be noted that even many
of the classical anarchists drew upon Marxist analysis, whether
or not they were willing to admit it.  Bakunin was one such example.

> Books on Spain by Bookchin and Sam Dolgoff. Dolgoff has also written
> on
> Kronstadt and anarchism in the Cuban Revolution. ALso Hobsbawm
> "Primitive Rebels" and "Revolutionaries".

The treatment of the Spanish Civil War has long been an area of
contention between Marxist and anarchist writers.  In these debates,
anarchists are pitted against Stalinist, against Trotskyists.  Most
writing on the subject places special emphasis on the collectives that
were created by anarchist influenced peasants and workers, after
the outbreak of the Civil War, and of the role of Stalinists in the
of these experiments.

> General histories: Anarchism by George Woodcock and Anarchism by
> Peter
> Marshall.
> Biographies: Bakunin by E.H. Carr. Bio's on Kropotkin and Bakunin by
> Woodcock. GDH Cole on Robert Owen.
> Classics: Bakunin on Anarchism and God and State. Fields, Factories
> and
> Workshops by Kropotkin. Books by Errico Maletesta, Rudolf Rocker,
> Herbert Read and Alex Comfort. Socialism Utopian and Scientific by
> Fred
> Engels. Radical Priorities Noam Chomsky. Stuff by Emma Goldman.
> State
> and Revolution by Lenin (quasi-Anarchist). The Ego and HIs Own by
> Max
> Stirner(the guy MArx and Engels referred to as The Unique). Most of
> Marx
> and Engles writing on Anarchism is in The Holy Family and the
> unedited
> version of the German Ideology.
> There's an academic named Michael Taylor who has written books using
> game theory to 'prove'anarchist ideas. A good book on Spain is
> Spanish
> Labyrinth by Gerald Brennan.
> Generally, more intelligent anarchists usually insist that they are
> opposed to all forms of oppression where Marxists are perfectly
> willing
> to use state power when it benefits them.

Marxists would of course say that they too are opposed to all forms of
opression and that they too look forward to the abolition of state power.
The differences lie in their respective analyses of how this it to be
and this in turn lies in their differing analyses concerning the
of oppression.

> Sam Pawlett (former teenage and undergrad Anarchist)

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