Lenin in Essen

Xxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx at xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Wed Mar 14 08:14:03 MST 2001

>CB: Mark, I'd say Doug's book is good as far as it goes.  But in the
>context of comparing it to Marxist analysis of the current period, it is
>something like Hobson's writing that Lenin used for analyzing the early
>1900's.  Marx used bourgeois political economic analysis , and had to use
>government statistics of course, and so did Lenin. But as far as I can
>tell, Doug is uncertain about whether he is for the overthrow of
>capitalism.  Neither Marx or Lenin approached bourgeois political economy
>or statistics doubting that they were writing to contribute to socialist
>revolution. On this basis, Doug's book doesn't measure up to the Marxist
>standard, which is in the first place for socialist revolution, without
>The final step in this logic is that my impression is that Marxism-Thaxis
>has a membership that is for socialist revolution. So, in this regard ,
>the rest of the list has a "longer thought" on capitalism than Doug takes
>in his book and otherwise. When we consider "erudition on the dynamics of
>capitalism" , we must always ask , "in relation to what ?"  Helping the
>capitalists manage the business cycle , as most economists do ( and quite
>successfully these days) ? or to provide the working class with a weapon
>in its struggle with the capitalists ?  If it is not definitely the latter
>it is not full erudition about capitialism , for really understanding it,
>would lead one to conclude that socialist revolution , overthrow of
>capitalism, is necessary.  Skepticism about this is evidence of lack of

Comparison to Hobson is the exact way of putting it, Charles!  I should
add, however, that Hobson was still kind of critical of British free
imperialist trade arrangements with the colonies. He even went futher
acknowleding scientific racism as a direct product of British colonial
mentality. There is also a seperate chapter about scientific racism in
_Imperialism_. However, Hobson was a social democrat adn a reformist in the
final analysis. I think Doug comrade is getting closer to Bill Warren type
revisionism or neo- fundamentalist leftism, and even looks to me, moving
away from affirmative action type leftism (considering the reactionary
thread about compensation for black slavery in LBO). Yeah right, blacks
vore for the ruling class liberals, so they have no right to demand
reperations from whites!!!

in any case, we should not expect from Doug too much theoretical
sophistication either.He is a journalist so he does what his profession

cheers, Xxxx

Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx
Ph.D student
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
Department of Political Science
135 Western Avenue, Milne 102
Albany, NY, 12222

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