marxism-digest V1 #4650

Hari Kumar hari.kumar at
Tue Apr 30 17:08:35 MDT 2002

Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:50:46 +0100
From: "Domhnall O'Cobhthaigh" <donaloc at>
Subject: Comment for Richard Fiddler
ORIGINAL MESSAGES: > I wonder if Lou can point to a revolution that is not socialist
and that
>has "succeeded" in overthrowing imperialism.
>Let's stick to the 20th Century:
>Ireland 1921 (partial anyway); India 1949 Iran 1979 Iraq 1958 Egypt 1954-6 Need I
continue? >According to the Trots most Socialist revolutions weren't Socialist either
so they should count too - >that includes Cuba 1958/9.
I am sorry to interject as a non_Trotskyist - but none of those countries succeeded in
'overthrowing' imperialism - IF I have understood the intent of the comrade correctly.

Perhaps I should stick to what I know best - Indian 'change' of guard was merely
handing off of power to a group of potential nationalists - who were manoeuvred into
becoming compradors. NO EFFECTIVE national revolutionary steps (let alone socialist)
were ever taken in India under Nehru or his successors. Off the cuff - I think much
the same could probably be said of the other examples cited. Perhaps the distinction
the cmde is pointing to, is that between old-style colonialism and neo-colonialism.
Fraternally, Hari Kumar

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