Forwarded from Anthony (reply to Mark)

Louis Proyect lnp3 at
Wed Dec 4 16:21:42 MST 2002

A note regarding

Theatrical militarism
By Pepe Escobar
Asia Times: December 4 2002

(posted by Mark Jones: Subject: RE: Fighting and dying for the environment
(response to Mark) From: "Mark Jones" <markjones011 at> Date:
Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:58:38 -0000

I just finished a quick skim of this article, and although it has a lot of
interesting ideas and information, it seems to me to have some problems.
Here's one. The article states,

" Until Pearl Harbor, the US was basically a naval power, like Athens was.
It was certainly an isolationist power. It could never be accused of being
imperialist in a Roman way. America's world came into being in 1945 - a
consequence of overwhelming military and industrial supremacy."

This view is only possible if you think the world consists of Asia, Europe
and Africa. However that is a view that ignores the huge landmasses of the
Americas, and all of the people who ever lived there.

 >From 1607 on, the British colonists fought an aggressive landwar against
the indegenous peoples of America. From the 1830's onward that war was
expanded to include Latin America. The 'citizen' soldiers of the United
States conquered all of the land between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans,
commiting genocide as they went, and causing greivous harm to those
indegenous societies and peoples that survived. Not only were the lands of
these societies taken, but also half of Mexico. In 1898 that war was extend
to the ramnants of the Spanish empire, and the USA annexed all of Puerto
Rico, and various other parts of the world including the Philllipine Islands.

This is not to say that the American empire was a new Roman empire, a new
British empire, or a copy of any other empire - but it was an empire from
the beginning - and one of the most important on the planet from the early
19th century.

All the best, Anthony

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