Mark Jones' excellent quotes and the class struggle for shorter work TIME as a transitional measure......

Mike Ballard swillsqueal at
Sun Dec 15 07:13:54 MST 2002


Certainly the commodity is the basic thing being
investigated in CAPITAL.  Certainly the commodity is
shown to have its dual character:  use-value (quality)
and exchange-value (quantity).  However, I would argue
that the analysis of production in CAPITAL is also
very important in that it in that it is here that we
see the commodity labour power producing the other
commodities over TIME, including Capital.  As a
commodity, wage-labour gets less back than it
produces.  It's exchange-value is not related to the
exchange-values it produces; but rather to its own
costs of reproduction.  In a socialist society, where
wage-labour is no more, this relation between the
worker and employer no longer exists.

Now the time that the workers have to spend supporting
the capitalists and the many superfluous machinations
of their system become unecessary in a socialist
society.  With that free-time, freedom rings.
Disposable time becomes the real measure of wealth.
Just as the kings and capitalists before, the worker
now has won free-time.

I'll sign off here with this piece from page 712 of

Wobbly greetings,
Mike B)


<The creation of a large quantity of disposable time
apart from necessary labour time for society generally
and each of its members (i.e. room for the development
of the individuals' full productive forces, hence
those of society also), this creation of not-labour
time appears in the stage of capital, as of all
earlier ones, as not-labour time, free time, for a
few. What capital adds is that it increases the
surplus labour time of the mass by all the means of
art and science, because its wealth consists directly
in the appropriation of surplus labour time; since
value directly its purpose, not use value. It is thus,
despite itself, instrumental in creating the means of
social disposable time, in order to reduce labour time
for the whole society to a diminishing minimum, and
thus to free everyone's time for their own
development. But its tendency always, on the one side,
to create disposable time, on the other, to convert it
into surplus labour. If it succeeds too well at the
first, then it suffers from surplus production, and
then necessary labour is interrupted, because no
surplus labour can be realized by capital. The more
this contradiction develops, the more does it become
evident that the growth of the forces of production
can no longer be bound up with the appropriation of
alien labour, but that the mass of workers must
themselves appropriate their own surplus labour. Once
they have done so -- and disposable time thereby
ceases to have an antithetical existence -- then, on
one side, necessary labour time will be measured by
the needs of the social individual, and, on the other,
the development of the power of social production will
grow so rapidly that, even though production is now
calculated for the wealth of all, disposable time will
grow for all. For real wealth is the developed
productive power of all individuals. The measure of
wealth is then not any longer, in any way, labour
time, but rather disposable time. Labour time as the
measure of value posits wealth itself as founded on
poverty, and disposable time as existing in and
because of the antithesis to surplus labour time; or,
the positing of an individual's entire time as labour
time, and his degradation therefore to mere worker,
subsumption under labour. The most developed machinery
thus forces the worker to work longer than the savage
does, or than he himself did with the simplest,
crudest tools.>

'If the entire labour of a country were sufficient
only to raise the support of the whole population,
there would be no surplus labour, consequently nothing
that could be allowed to accumulate as capital. If in
one year the people raises enough for the support of
two years, one year's consumption must perish, or for
one year men must cease from productive labour. But
the possessors of [the] surplus produce or capital...
employ people upon something not directly and
immediately productive, e.g. in the erection of
machinery. So it goes on.' (The Source and Remedy of
the National Difficulties, p. 4.)

"Man first begins to philosophize when the necessitites of life are supplied."  Aristotle

"determinatio est negatio"  Spinoza

"There are no ordinary cats."  Colette

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