Double standards, anyone?

John Paramo albatrosrojo2000 at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 14 18:17:36 MST 2003


Lou:

> There are definite parameters to Marxmail, just as
there are for Frontlines Newspaper. This 
> list is an extension of experiments like the
> American Socialist magazine launched by Bert Cochran
and Harry Braverman in 1955, or Solidarity 
> (despite my sharp criticisms of one or another
> positions they have staked out over the past 5 years
or so), or Refundunzione in Italy, or 
> what the DSP at least asserts it is trying to do,
> etc. In other words, it is an attempt to break with
the model of the vanguard party as understood by
people like yourself. Over the nearly 5 year history
of this mailing list, we have established a strong
> center of gravity among non-party people who agree
with these perspectives.

Lou:

I think nobody you mentioned in your e-mail ever
defended the idea of a "vanguard party" in the sense
you interpreted they did.... or any other way if I
remember correctly ... Nor that those you mention ever
treated this e-mail list as a Hyde Park podium to
dennounce the traitors and sellouts on the next
podium.

But, perceptions aside, I would put forward a
proposal.  Spell out the content of the
above-paragraph in more detail as the objectives of
this list and post it on a permanent basis on the
opening screen of the web site, so people will be
aware of it at the moment they join.

Something to the effect of:

"Over the nearly 5 year history of this mailing list,
we have established a strong center of gravity among
non-party people who agree that the perspectives of
this list is an extension of experiments like the
American Socialist magazine launched by Bert Cochran
and Harry Braverman in 1955, or Solidarity (despite
our sharp criticisms of one or another positions they
have staked out over the past 5 years or so), or 
Communist Refundazione in Italy, or what the
Australian DSP at least asserts it is trying to do. If
you think you can promote any idea of the need for a
vanguard revolutionary party of any kind in this
list... forget it! We view ourselves with the
sufficient credentials as revolutionaries and we do
not need anyone telling us otherwise" (Taking from
your own writings, Lou)


That will fix any future problems.

JP








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