Milosovic and bending the stick

David Quarter davidquarter at
Tue Jul 1 14:29:53 MDT 2003

  If you can respond to my specific charges, do so. otherwise don't
waste my time.


> I'm sorry, I am not aware that I occupied any middle ground just now. I
> don't see how our positions are necessarily different, incompatible or
> irreconcilable, except that you use Leninist vituperation and I don't. If
> you can provide an analysis of the type that Chussodovsky, Chandler or
> Samary have given as regards the lying, spying methods of the imperialists
> in Yugoslavia, fine, otherwise get off my case.
> However, before doing that analysis, let's get crystal clear about what gave
> rise to the foreign debt of Yugoslavia, and what gave rise to the emigration
> of a lot of Yugoslavs out of Yugoslavia, plus the displacement of a lot of
> other people, so that we can form a better concept of the problems of
> socialist transition in Yugoslavia. I.e. why did they leave, and why did
> they need more and more money from overseas ?
> I have a different methodology; if Milosovic can indeed return to
> Yugoslavia, and that this trial is stopped, then that is the main thing, the
> Yugoslavs will sort it out from there. And since people here object that I
> do not know sufficiently about it, that is all I am prepared so say.
> I protested against the war against Yugoslavia together with Trotskyists, IS
> people and SP people, with the slogan STOP THE WAR, disregarding any latest
> analytical flavour of the month. I think that was correct, and I stand by
> that position.
> You on the other hand want to split the socialist movement, wreck it, divert
> it with hate mail to other socialists, distract it from its tasks. You want
> to introduce differences which do not really matter, and that is the kind of
> thing which has led to the decline of the socialist movement.
> I am not trying to be the most erudite, most intelligent, politically
> correct, flexible, sexy, 100 percent certified worker-bolshevik
> internationalist left-wing soulful Leninist in the world. In these things,
> you have to have some estimate of what you can and cannot do, with what
> you've got, in the situation you are in.
> I quite like to have the middle ground almost every day, and if you keep on
> talking about the middle ground, I am going to have to go back into Lenin's
> Collected Works and find a quote in his writings about tactically sticking
> to the middle ground. And that is a warning.
> J.

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