who cares who is who?

Richard Harris rhh1 at gotadsl.co.uk
Tue Jul 8 18:00:13 MDT 2003

> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:29:27 -0400
> From: "Jose G. Perez" <jgperez at netzero.net>
> Subject: Who/what is "dms"
> DMS wrote:
> >>And because international capital has no need for this
> reconfiguration, there can be no local solution, no national revolution,
> no revolutionary nationalism, no struggle that is a struggle for a
> self-determination of peoples.

> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:43:30 -0700
> From: "Walter Lippmann" <walterlx at enet.cu>
> Subject: Re: Who/what is "dms"
> I'm also curious as to what DMS
> stands for politically.


In English culture it is regarded at the height of charlatanism to question
the proponent of an argument rather than debate the argument.  A phrase
derived from rugby is 'going for the man rather than the ball.'

Jose G. Perez & Walter Lippmann, who are you?  Don't tell me, I don't care.
You come across as the kind of thought cops who would do Hitchens proud in
his description of socialism.  (I'd like to say 'Hitchen's calumnies', but
he does not calumnise socialism if we have 'socialists' who ask such stupid
and offensive questions.  If what dms or I say is nonsense, criticise it in
a constructive, comradely manner.  Jose even insults dms by saying he does
not read his posts.  Shame on you ~ we can't build socialism like that.)

Who or what dms is irrelevant to the development of marxian understanding.
It matters, of course, in personal relations.

The internet is the closest the world has had to a true democracy of ideas
since the meetings on the pynx ~ the very short-lived Soviets and Commune
notwithstanding.  You often don't know if the person you are talking with is
white, black, green or pink, tall or short, fat or thin, man or woman often
is implied in names but not assured ~ I see some point to using handles.
Jew or Greek, american or iraqi, who cares? as socialism is premised on a
belief (is knowledge too strong?) of the true human community running
parallel to the world of Capital.

Isn't that why Marx talks about alienation, alienation being an imposition
upon natural communities (you have to start from somewhere, and does not
Marx start from Aristotle?)

And so be it.


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