Bring the Troops Home Now/Support the Troops

Xenon Zi-Neng Yuan wenhuadageming at
Thu Jul 24 11:29:19 MDT 2003

for the record, i never threw in my support for these slogans.  i myself
have so far been very careful not to endorse these americentric positions,
but that shouldn't exclude the possibility of me working with people that
do.  and what stan goff and others do/say on their own time towards broader
coalition building doesn't automatically invalidate for me their thoughts
and opinions as expressed within explicitly socialist circles.


At 06:29 AM 7/24/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Lause writes:
> >>To return to the main point--these are "our" troops.
>  I know people over there, I hope that the Americans
>on this list share not a sense of
>responsibility both for their being there and for
>their well-being.  I have been discussing the region
>with people in the military for many years now, and
>have surely learned as much from their concerns as
>from mine. Everyone who joins the military has a mix
>of motives.  Almost nobody joins for the violence.
>Obviously, recruitment ads offering them water skiing
>doesn't explain it either.<<
>Now you sound like Xenon. Your summary of the
>discussion is inadequate, but many is the time I've
>failed to communicate to the likes of you. In fact, at
>least most likely, the more you have to write on a
>thread, the less you reach people, since people don't
>have a lot of time nowadays to pay attention to
>But you still have not got over it: one American life
>is worth no more than one Iraqi life, yet many more
>Iraqis are dying as we write. The Iraqi people are as
>much 'ours' as are the troops, and our troops are
>there wrongfully helping to conduct an unjust and
>unlawful war and occupation.
>Saying you support the troops doesn't mean jack shit.

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