they are no longer a problem for the United States

James Daly james.irldaly at
Fri May 16 06:03:28 MDT 2003

Many thanks for John Enyang's priceless satire and Lueko Willms's
helpful research. I knew of the US murders in Yemen, but I had not
realised, or had forgotten, that Bush boasted about it. Alarcon is so
right -- that makes a very good argument in Cuba's situation.

My question about the lack of response was badly phrased -- I meant
liberal and left response after the speech. I remember hearing
justified criticisms about excessive applause and about Bush's wink to
someone in the front row, but I do not remember hearing any criticism
of the presidential claim of responsibility for killing suspects. Of
course we also know what happened to prisoners under military
interrogation in Afghanistan. But the James Bond throwaway line in
such a setting adds a dimension of horror, reminiscent of the use of
the great Native American Geronimo's skull in frat rituals.


James Daly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lueko Willms" <Lueko.Willms at>
To: "Mailing list Marxmail" <marxism at>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: they are no longer a problem for the United States

>   in reply to:
> > # Subject: they are no longer a problem for the United States
> > # From: "James Daly" <james.irldaly at>
> > # Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 08:30:58 +0100
>   on the web at
>   on Ricardo Alarcón's April 29, 2003, article "No longer a
> > Did Bush actually say this? And was his meaning obvious? (I can
> > imagine the leering smirk). Why was there no response (apart from
> > applause)?
> >
>   You can read the full speech "State of the Union" at this URL:
> >
> >
> >
>   and you can also view or download a video or listen to the audio
> recording of that speech from that URL, and find out if there was
> more of a reaction that simple applause.
>   You will find the following paragraph in the speech:
> >  To date, we've arrested or otherwise dealt with many key
> > commanders of al Qaeda. They include a man who directed
> > logistics and funding for the September the 11th attacks;
> > the chief of al Qaeda operations in the Persian Gulf, who
> > planned the bombings of our embassies in East Africa and
> > the USS Cole; an al Qaeda operations chief from Southeast
> > Asia; a former director of al Qaeda's training camps in
> > Afghanistan; a key al Qaeda operative in Europe; <i>a major
> > al Qaeda leader in Yemen</i>. All told, more than 3,000
> > suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries.
> > Many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this
> > way -- they are no longer a problem to the United States
> > and our friends and allies. (Applause.)
>    My emphasis added. You might remember the murder of all people on
> board of a car somewhere in Yemen by a US missile guided from afar
> US forces.
>    One of the human beings in that car was, as far as I understand
> it, supposedly this "major al Qaeda leader" mentioned above, maybe
> also the person held responsible with the attach on the US military
> ship "Cole".
>    Anyway, those people in that car destroyed by a US missle were
> arrested, they were of those who "have met a different fate".
>    So the meaning of that "different fate" is obvious.
>    US imperialism is an international murder organization which
> pretends to have the right to kill any human being anywhere in the
> world.
> Yours,
> Lüko Willms
> Frankfurt/Main
> / Lueko.Willms at

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