[Marxism] No right of return [the case of the invisible Zionists]
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MOTECK1457 at aol.com
Wed Apr 14 20:24:54 MDT 2004
In a message dated 4/14/2004 7:39:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mstainsby at resist.ca writes:
This is the heart of what it is to be a Zionist-- to deny that other people
have the same equal rights as Jews in Israel. In so far as Zionism even
more than what Lou rightly pointed to in Africa was racial supremacy, it is
something that can no longer be tolerated by people in our movement, if we
are serious about being anti-racist
http://hdna.vwh.net/peacepossible/ Peace is Possible: Israel, Palestine and
I am every bit as serious about being anti-racist as McDonald Stainsby is,
and far more serious about freedom of expression. Look at the website below and
decide for yourself whether or not left Zionism, socialist Zionism and labor
Zionism exists. McDonald Stainsby won't even look, because he is more
interested in demonizing people he disagrees with than in having an open mind. Last
Sunday, I went to a Passover Seder sponsored by Hashomer Hatzair; one of the
organizations on the website below (and above this paragraph). I was honored
to hear Yossi Beilin; one of the Israeli architects of the Geneva Accords, who
attended and who thanked Hashomer Hatzair for its efforts in building a
consensus for the Accords. Yossi Beilin is doing far more in support of Palestinian
rights than Stainsby is; and he is unstinting in his criticism of repressive
Israeli government policies without descending to Stainsby's level of dogmatic
stridency. Look at the website and decide for yourself. Here are some of
the questions we asked at the seder, in addition to the traditional four
"Why does a solution to the Middle East conflict seem so distant?"
"What can we do to help Israeli progress toward peace?"
"What should be our voice from America?"
"What can give us renewed hope in a future of peace?" - p. 9, Hashomer
Hatzair Haggadah shel Pesach
In addition to reciting the traditional Ten Plagues, we also said: (ibid., p.
"These modern ills sober our lives and diminish our joy, as the Ten Plagues
did for our forebears: Aids, Poverty, Drugs, Racism, Hunger, Terrorism,
Illiteracy, Violence, Pollution,
These are the problems that left Zionists grapple with when they celebrate
Passover, the Jewish Festival of Freedom. Macdonald Stainsby can deny it all he
wants to, but ironically he is acceding to Sharon and Netanyahu's vision of
Zionism when he acts as if only right-wing versions of Zionism exist.
And sorry, I trust Yossi Beilin on this issue far more than I trust Macdonal
Stainsby. Yossi Beilin has negotiated directly with Palestinians. What has
Stainsby accomplished that is anywhere near comparable, other than making his
sour grapes utterly apparent.
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