[Marxism] NZ stuff

John Obrien causecollector at msn.com
Sun Apr 18 22:47:32 MDT 2004


Thank you for the information.  Keep me in mind should you come across items.

In solidarity,

John O'Brien
Society for Education & the Arts
P. O. Box 381040
Los Angeles, CA 90038
causecollector at msn.com
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  John O'Brien:
  >I do not have much from New Zealand - around 50 buttons. But I have
  been looking to get a couple of New Zealand buttons I really have wanted
  for some time.  One is the July 14th Vietnam button with a plane
  dropping bombs.  Another is a Gay button issued in Christ Church with
  that cities name on it.

  >I am willing to purchase or trade for progressive items.  I am also
  interested in any of the early IWW items issued in New Zealand around
  World War One.  If you come across items - like anti-Iraq War or
  anti-Bush issued in New Zealand - please keep me in mind. If you know of
  someone who does collect or would like to trade for items from other
  countries - feel free to give them my name and contact information.

  I don't really keep political mementos.  I used to shift around a lot
  and gave away chunks of stuff at various times.

  The July 14 Vietnam badge would be from the last big anti-Vietnam War
  mobilisations in NZ - July 14, 1972.  

  There was a Gay Liberation group in Christchurch for two or three years,
  and they would have produced that button.  I don't know where anyone
  from that group would be these days.  There is no gay movement in NZ
  now, just social groups - gay rugby teams, tramping groups, lobby groups
  within the main political parties, but no actual campaigning

  Things gay have been pretty much incorporated into mainstream politics
  here - there are openly gay MPs, a Maori transsexual MP in a rural
  electorate, etc.  All very establishment.

  There was quite a significant IWW or IWW-influenced movement in NZ in
  the early 1900s, mainly brought here from Australia.  Defeated on the
  industrial field it ended up fusing with more moderate social democrats
  and forming the NZ Labour Party in 1916, with a steady motion rightwards
  after this.

  Syndicalism maintained some influence in the trade unions, but this came
  to an end with the defeat of the watersiders and their allies in 1951.

  There is a general left-activists e-group in NZ which as Trotskyists,
  anarchists, left social democrats and so on.  I'll post there what you
  are interested in.  There is an anarchist in Christchurch who has some
  stuff about anarcho-syndicalism in NZ in the early 1900s.  

  >If someone does send items - please do not send in regular envelopes
  since the post office stamp cancellation machines damage such items as
  buttons - or while in transit.  It needs a bubble pack or box to avoid
  such damage.

  >Can you recommend a good source of reference works on progressive
  groups in New Zealand history?

  There's very little around.  A few people who were in the CP published
  memoirs.  There's one by Alex Galbraith, which is available from the
  Workers Party.  There's maybe one academic history of the CP, by someone
  who is fairly hostile to socialism I think.  

  Jock Barnes' 'Never a White Flag' is quite good.  He was the leader of
  the watersiders in 1951 and a class-struggle militant, in the
  syndicalist tradition.

  Philip Ferguson

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