[Marxism] State Capitalism and the writings of Kautsky
donaloc at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 17 06:49:00 MST 2004
Does anyone know if the state capitalist theories of the ISO were
influenced by the writings of Karl Kautsky.
I take this quote from his work social democracy vs communism (chapter
"Certainly, it is the aim of Socialists to deprive the capitalists of
the means of production. But that in itself is not enough. We must also
determine who is to control these means of production. When another
minority takes the place of the capitalists and controls the means of
production, independently of the people and frequently against their
will, the change in property relations thus accomplished signifies least
of all Socialism. There are forms of Oriental despotism in which the
master of the state wield also mastery over the country's instruments of
production.  In comparison with this form of state economy, the
capitalist system of production is much less oppressive, and resistance
to it much more promising of results. In Russia it is the government,
not the people, who controls the means of production. The government is
thus the master of the people."
There are a few following choice paragraphs too. The similarities are
profound. BTW, I think that he makes a sound point about the question of
control of means of production - yet things are not so clear cut (of
course) with the case of the Soviet union - the existence of a separate
'minority...independent of the people...against their will' is
Another set of similarities I have come across is the sectarianism of
some extreme 'trotskyist' and 'marxist-leninist' groups. Their critique
of the soviet union, Cuba, China, Vietnam. Almost parallel. The big
difference is that various cliques are shown to be 'revisionist' or
'degenerate' through references to quotes by Marx, Lenin and
(Stalin/Mao/Hoxha) or (Trotsky/Cliff/Healy).
There must be an underlying sociological explanation for parallel
processes arising repeatedly.
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