[Marxism] 'Mangroves can act as shield against tsunami'/Swedish warning halted for tourist industry

Bonnie Weinstein giobon at sbcglobal.net
Fri Dec 31 12:25:42 MST 2004

1) 'Mangroves can act as shield against tsunami'
   I got this article from someone on Marxmail
   (I can't remember    who...Bonnie Weinstein)

2) Swedish paper reports tsunami warning halted out of concern for tourist
industry, 12/28/04 -- This from the Swedish paper Expressen. 

Hi all,

The articles listed above and reprinted below for your convenience are two
aspects of why this tsunami resulted in so many deaths. A socialist society
would be able to rationally examine coastline human habitation and make
recommendations on how to live safely without damaging the coastal
environment and, of course, all kinds of state of the art warning systems
for all kinds of natural disasters would be in place. If such a disaster did
occur all of societies efforts would go to saving lives.

The human relationship to nature under capitalism is warped. We cannot see
the forest for the trees because we are blinded by the profit motive.
Capitalism builds on earthquake faults and marshland. Capitalism builds
housing developments on contaminated land and on flood land. It transports
oil in single-hulled ships; it builds cars that have less gas mileage, not
more; it builds "disposable housing" for the poor; it profits from
life-saving medication and medical care; it profits from inhumane treatment
of animals in the food chain; it even profits from contaminated meat
supplies; it profits from making the seeds from crops unfertile; it profits
from war and racism; it profits from human slavery; it profits from not
warning of disaster. Capitalism fouls up everything it touches.

I repeat the following:

[From: "Nestor Gorojovsky" <nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar>

"Now, what the hell does all this have to do with Marxism?"

To paraphrase Joseph Dietzgen, everything has to do with marxism...


Bonnie Weinstein, Socialist Viewpoint


'Mangroves can act as shield against tsunami'

By G. Venkataramani

CHENNAI, DEC. 27. Front Page, The Hindu

Date:28/12/2004 URL:



"Tsunami is a rare phenomenon. Though we cannot prevent the occurrence of
such natural calamities, we should certainly prepare ourselves to mitigate
the impact of the natural fury on the population inhabiting the coastal
ecosystems. Our anticipatory research work to preserve mangrove ecosystems
as the first line of defence against devastating tidal waves on the eastern
coastline has proved very relevant today.


The dense mangrove forests stood like a wall to save coastal communities
living behind them," said M.S. Swaminathan, Chairman, M.S. Swaminathan
Research Foundation (MSSRF), Chennai.


The mangroves in Pitchavaram and Muthupet region acted like a shield and
bore the brunt of the tsunami.


The impact was mitigated and lives and property of the communities
inhabiting the region were saved.


"When we started the foundation 14 years ago, we initiated the anticipatory
research programme -  a two-pronged strategy -  to meet the eventualities of
sea level rise due to global warming. One is to conserve and regenerate
coastal mangroves along the eastern coast of the country, and the second is
transfer of salt-tolerant genes from the mangroves to selected crops grown
in the coastal regions.


It is now found that wherever the mangroves have been regenerated,
especially in the Orissa coast, the damage due to tsunami is minimal," he


Livelihood options 


The MSSRF will soon be publishing a scientific document `Tsunami and
mangroves' highlighting the need to conserve and rehabilitate mangroves as
the frontline defence against tidal forces.


The foundation will also prescribe multiple and multi-level livelihood
options for the communities inhabiting the mangrove ecosystem.


Alternative cropping patterns to provide household economic and nutrition
security for the rural poor will also be developed, according to Prof.


The foundation will also press into service public address systems and
communication network with village knowledge centres to forewarn the coastal


All efforts will be made to further strengthen the knowledge centres and
information dissemination strategies.


A core group of experts has been set up to prepare concrete action plans and
coordinate the short-term and long-term relief measures for the affected
communities in the coastal belts.


A voluntary relief fund is created, and it will be used to meet the
immediate needs of the affected communities, according to Prof. Swaminathan.


The foundation held a condolence meeting for those who lost their lives due
to the tsunami and resolved to help mitigate the sufferings.


(c) Copyright 2000 - 2004 The Hindu

[ Thailand's meterorological experts had no difficulty in getting their
priorities right:  saving lives thru sending out a tsunami warning or
refraining from disturbing the tourist industry - Howard Keylor]
Howard Keylor <howardkeylor at comcast.net>

Swedish paper reports tsunami warning halted out of concern for tourist
industry, 12/28/04 -- This from the Swedish paper Expressen. 

Just minutes after the earthquake in the Indian Ocean on Sunday morning,
Thailand¹s foremost meteorological experts were sitting together in a crisis
meeting. But they decided not to warn about the tsunami ³out of courtesy to
the tourist industry,² writes the Thailand daily newspaper The Nation.
The experts got the news around 8:00 am on Sunday morning local time. An
hour later, the first massive wave struck. But the experts started to
discuss the economic impacts when they discussed if a tsunami warning should
be issued. 

The primary argument against such a warning was that there had not been any
floods in 300 years. Also, the experts believed the Indonesian island
Sumatra would be a ³cushion² for the southern coast of Thailand. The experts
also had bad information; they thought the tremor was 8.1. A similar
earthquake occurred in the same area in 2002 with no flooding at all.
One expert The Nation spoke with also noted that the department had only
four earthquake experts among their 900-strong meteorological department. A
second told The Nation that a tsunami warning was discussed but that because
of the risk, they opted not to issue a warning.

³We finally decided not to do anything because the tourist season was in
full swing,² the source said. ³The hotels were 100 percent booked. What if
we issued a warning, which would have led to an evacuation, and nothing had
happened. What would be the outcome? The tourist industry would be
immediately hurt. Our department would not be able to endure a lawsuit.² 
This story was first noted and originally translated at Democratic


On 12/30/04 2:09 PM, "Rod Holt" <rholt at planeteria.net> wrote:

> A few years back, I took a walk along the San Andreas fault near Point
> Reys, CA, and there saw for myself that the ground had shifted
> longitudinally all along the area well over 1 meter in the 1906
> earthquake. This quake was likely an order of magnitude shy of the
> Sumata quake in energy released. The main determinant is how long the
> gradual shifts are stored and accumulated in the elastic rocks; how far
> the bow is drawn.
>         -rod
> Nestor Gorojovsky wrote:
>> Yes, this was obviously a _big_ one.  Sumatra, as from the local
>> press (quite unreliable on sci matters here) has moved _a whole
>> foot_, 30 cm!!!!!!!!!!!
>> The fastest moving tectonic plates don't move more than one or two
>> centimeters a year.
>> Your Puerto Rican cde. is very accurate.  "Education", here, however,
>> is not simply raw "education".  It is, first and foremost, a State
>> power decided to protect its own population because  this population
>> is the actual base of its existence.  That is, a truly independent
>> and self-reliant nation.  This is a precondition for succesful
>> planning.
>> "This nation, and socialism, are one and a single thing."  Ho Chi
>> Minh.
>> Respuesta a: [Marxism] tsunami II
>> Remitido por: Carlos A. Rivera
>> Fecha: Miércoles 29 de Diciembre de 2004
>> Hora: 17:14
>> *****
>>> I spoke whit my comrade in the Sesmological Survey in Puerto Rico, and
>>> she raised a very interesting point regarding the Tsunami, one I have
>>> yet to see.
>>> It is that a large part of the problem wasn't infrastructure per-se,
>>> but lack of education and planning. ...
>>> Nevertheless she described in very picturesque language that this was
>>> a very big one, as big as can be expected, and that her instruments
>>> recorded the quake so strongly (in Puerto Rico) that they initially
>>> thought it was a malfunction.
>> Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
>> nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>> "Sí, una sola debe ser la patria de los sudamericanos".
>> Simón Bolívar al gobierno secesionista y disgregador de
>> Buenos Aires, 1822
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