[Marxism] Re.: Marx was right?

Ken Ranney kranney at rogers.com
Fri Feb 13 12:08:55 MST 2004


Hello Chris,
I will respond later to your next submission.

At 05:50 PM 2/11/2004 -0800, Chris Brady wrote:
>Hi, Ken,
>I was being approximate, but the specific section I refered to was:
>
>Karl Marx
>Capital, Volume One
>Part VIII: Primitive Accumulation
>
>I've often thought that Part VIII could stand alone as an introductory
>booklet, especially for students of history.

Many thanks for this. Having skimmed it a little, I am looking forward to it.


>I still have problems with your arguments for one-to-a-worker voting
>shares in their places of production.  At best, the idea seems to me to
>be somewhat analogous to workers' councils, or soviets.  Maybe the
>Chinese Communist Party might consider it, although I do not see it as
>very likely.  However, I cannot shake the conviction that they would be
>doomed in a capitalist economy, for you haven't really explained, or I
>have misunderstood, how the capitalist dynamic could be eliminated by
>workers voting in a private enterprise.


The main features of the proposal include abolition of the capitalist 
ruling class and removal of control of the news media by capitalism.  These 
two alone will, I believe, produce a quantum leap in the movement toward a 
just society, which is the ultimate objective of all socialists, I suggest. 
The capitalist dynamic would be eliminated, not by workers voting in a 
private enterprise, but by booting out of capitalists from ownership and 
thus political and economic influence,* which would result in abolition of 
the capitalist ruling class.  There would, until progression to socialism 
occurred, still be competition, money and the market, all of which I abhor. 
But many people in our society adore these three, and this, ironically, is 
what makes worker ownership of the corporations relatively feasible.

* Reminder: "In the Marxist scheme, the 'ruling class* of capitalist 
society is that class which owns and controls the means of production and 
which is able, by virtue of the economic power thus conferred upon it, to 
use the state as its instrument for the domination of society". Ralph 
Miliband - THE STATE IN CAPITALIST SOCIETY page 23 QUARTET  BOOKS 1969



>I may hazard that it is worthy
>of suggestion to workers in capitalist countries, but more as a
>heuristic device meant to demonstrate how socialism would be superior to
>a partial approach down one dead end to a utopian workers' democracy.
>
>I will contemplate your ideas some more, but remain provisionally
>convinced of a more direct route to socialism .

  I am interested to know what you mean when you say "a more direct route 
to socialism".

The book to which I have alluded (Cohen, Ruth ed. Alien Invasion: How the 
Harris Tories Mismanaged Ontario) is actually not mine.  I have only pp 
222-228 and it is already in print.
(Insomniac Press, 2001.)
Best wishes,
Ken Ranney






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