[Marxism] RE: Ali G
einde at gmx.de
Thu Jul 22 14:28:51 MDT 2004
David Quarter wrote:
> Date sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:36:47 +0200
> From: Einde O'Callaghan <einde at gmx.de>
>>loupaulsen at comcast.net wrote:
>>>I admit to being very suspicious of any routine that depends for its humor on a white man dressing up as a Black stereotype. This was the basis of the Amos 'n' Andy radio show, and of "minstrel" shows for that matter, and they got a lot of laughs in their time too, and their critics (if any)
> were probably also accused of being humorless PC twits..
> Quoting Einde O'Callaghan:
>>I think this is missing the whole point. Ali G isn't a parody of a black
>>man but of a white man who is a would-be black man. There is a big
>>difference and such pathetic types do actually exist in Britain -
>>although not perhaps in quite the extreme form presented by Sascha Cohen.
> If you consider an Arab person a "white man", then Ali G. is certainly
> a parody of a "white man who is would-be black man".
Sascha Baron Cohen isn't an Arab - as his name should make clear.
> Yes -- and how pathetic for a "white" man to act "black"?
No it's not pathetic for a white guy to act black - but some of these
white guys from the suburbs are quite pathetic - mainly because they
miss the point and pick up a stereotype.
Quite a lot of white youth fashion in Britain over the years has had its
roots in the Afro-Caribbean community (without necessarily poaying on
stereotypes) - even the original ska-loving skinheads of the 1960s
(before the skinheads became identified with right-wing violence) were
copying the close-cropped hairstyle that was fashionable among the ska
and early reggae groups from the West Indies at the time, e.g. Desmond
Dekker, as a consciously working class reaction to the long-haired
hippies who were identified (by them) as middle class.
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