[Marxism] Re: state capitalism
minnows at connexus.net.au
Thu Jun 17 19:22:41 MDT 2004
As with Tom O'Lincoln, I don't plan to get into debate here on the list
about the topic. However, in the light of the collapse of the USSR etc,
the ensuing immiseration of the post-Soviet proletariat made a lot of us
think thoughts along the lines of "well that state capitalism theory was
obviously a crock, just look at the relative advantages under the Soviet
system", horrific bureaucratic distortions aside.
Of course, as far as I know, all the state-capitalist and "third camp"
groups pretty much held to their theories, stating that the Soviet
ruling class had made a leap sideways (or somesuch) into the more normal
form of capitalism.
Anyway, the debate is very much becoming academic and historical, except
on the question of Cuba. I think clearly it's best to examine Cuba on
its own merits, in regard to which the Soviet experience is mostly
tangential. This way we can at least avoid a rehashing of the 1940s and
1950s debates among Trotskyists about state capitalism!.
But since some may like to read more on the historical questions, Barry
Sheppard has written (IMO) a great article "Theories of the USSR in
light of its collapse" which is available at
<<http://www.dsp.org.au/links/back/issue18/Sheppard.htm>> and I think
puts the debate into its current context pretty well.
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