[Marxism] Discussing China
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DLVinvest at cs.com
Sun Jun 20 01:14:02 MDT 2004
In a message dated 6/19/04 11:47:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
borhyaenid at yahoo.com writes:
> Anything’s possible.
No: some things are possible, some are not; and some statements are true and
others not. Throwing up one's hands in exasperation is not politics, let alone
Your confusion over the colloquy between Chou and Kissinger may be a
reflection of their confusion -- and lies: I won't accuse Chou of lying, as he accuses
Che, but having got out of Chile just before Pinochet's coup, and having
studied the role of Nixon, Kissinger and Helms in that affair, I can assure you:
The CIA had alot to do with the coup. After helping assassinate Generals
Schreoder and Prats, who opposed a coup, the NSC ordered CIA to pursue Track II:
"make the economy scream," Kissinger told Helms, while continuing to subvert and
suborn the officer corps, fund sabotage and strangle trade. The Soviets were
distant and little able to help or protect, even if they had been so inclined
after earlier failures in the region; isolated Cuba counselled caution; the
Chilean left was divided over what to do. But Chou's account, in which he accuses
the Popular Unity coalition of "adventurism" (not far from Kissinger's claim
Allende's gobvernment was "incompetent") is both disingenuous and inadequate
to explain what happened. For starters, there was a very serious
life-and-death debate about how to respond to the US-sponsored coup everyone knew was
coming. As the pressure mounted and the economy screamed, PC-Chile's slogan was "No
to civil war"; practically and programatically, this meant a retreat in
nationalization of factories and farms; MAPU and other factions said "civil war: to
prevent it or win it" -- but pressed for more ocupations by workers and
peasants of smaller factories and farms that the PC denounced as provocations); the
left wing of the PS and MIR, whose influence in union elections and popular
organizations had been growing at the expense of the PC, said "pueblo,
consciencia, fusil" (people, consciousness, guns) -- but had not enough of any of
these three elements to mount effective resistance. It was more like the tragedy
of Republican Spain than what happened to Che in Bolivia -- and Che was already
dead 6 years by the time Allende died defending the experiment of the
"peaceful road to socialism."
The relevance to the discussion of what kind of government and ruling class
exists in China now, and where they are headed, eludes me, but some say
"anything's possible." How about capitalist restoration? If China's ruling class is
or is not the proletariat, it matters to all the world, not just
keyboard-activists. Wishful thinking -- about China, Cuba or Vietnam (noone likes to mention
DPR of Korea) -- is no substitute for "concrete analysis of concrete
conditions" -- including imperialist encirclement, development of productive forces,
and all the other factors people face.
And in my supposedly idle curiosity I wonder why Mao himself didn't mention
that 11th "relationship" or contradiction. In retrospect, which is the
prespective that history affords us for costly lessons, the Chinese party's analysis
of the CP-SuU as revionist, of its mode of prodcution as capitalism restored in
a new form, of its policies as social-imperialist were either correct or not.
And their strategic alliance with the US against the USSR on the grounds the
latter was a greater threat to China is not easily dismissed.
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