[Marxism] Re: China thread on A-list
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Fri Mar 12 09:48:23 MST 2004
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:26:08 PM Central Standard Time,
hliu at mindspring.com writes:
Xenon Zi-Neng Yuan wrote:
> agreed with most of your points, only i would like to note that the
> illustrations in "seven Chinese brothers" are overly caricatured,
slanty-eyed depictions. >also just a side note, Confucianism nonetheless has a
definite conservative streak to it (part of the
> reason why Mao criticized it), not to mention that Confucius often
> regarded women as little else than meddlesome children. I prefer Daoism
This is going to be somewhat difficult because the base formulation has
defied description by every generation of Marxist until now.
The Chinese people - or rather the people of China, most certainly have “
slanted eyes” or rather that section of humanity with the longest continuous
written history/culture, have characteristics different from other peoples. This is
not stated in jest.
This is to say that my encounter with aspects of the culture of China, as a
child, was already devoid of the thick ideological atmosphere of American white
chauvinism. There are reasons for this bound up with my family history.
As an adult I have come to understand beauty historically and on the level of
theory and ideology. Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder - only
variation of a historically evolved theme. The victor writes the theme. The theme that
is written or made manifest is fraudulently hurled on the world stage as
beauty eyes and one encounters a complexity not reducible to economic categories
or mode of production. The eyes of beauty spring from a profound biological
imperative and demands meeting the nutritional requirements of humanity as the
fundamental basis for health, life, love, the pursuit of happiness and the
realization of beauty.
What today appears as unsustainable consumption arose in history as the
striving to meet humanity nutritional needs.
Here is the irreducible “unit” in human evolution ignored by the bourgeoisie
and misunderstood by Marxists. The society of plenty does not mean plenty of
everything. The unconscious and ignorant striving to meet our nutritional
requirements has led humanity to “eating everything eatable” – Engels
formulation. This means consuming everything consumable in the earth. For beauty to be in
the eye of the beholder, the beholder must live in the eye of beauty.
Symmetry is rooted in a biological imperative by definition. Symmetry
contains its own history and evolution. American society is moving in the wrong
direction and not conscious of itself on a profound level. The glorification of “Big
” is degenerate. Fat people are not beautiful. Fat is feces and mucus
accumulation. Our world is victimized by consumption theory and ideology, which is
reproduced in ever widening cycles as an attribute of bourgeois reproduction.
The bourgeois and petty bourgeois intellectual calls this the ecological crisis
and “running out of resources.”
For reasons of history the sharp murderous ideological form of this process
is white chauvinism. My point is that the shape of the unfolding social
struggle - world wide, is against white chauvinism in all its manifestations. Not
racism but white chauvinism. White chauvinism emerged on the basis of white
supremacy and is a material relationship of property; white chauvinism is an
ideological expression of bourgeois property as it arose historically. White
chauvinism is the form that the imperial bribery was given to the Anglo-American
people that broke the unity of the working class within the American Union and
throughout the world. Capitalism - bourgeois property did not develop
harmoniously out of the English countryside, but rather arose on the basis of New World
slavery and the transition in the form of wealth from landed property relations
What was New World slavery other than throwing human beings into the furnace
driving consumption? It is valid for Marxists to demand that other Marxists
adopt the theory propositions of Karl Marx. New world slavery was the most
extreme and brutal form of separating the producer from his means of production and
The color factor in world history is not going to just go away. “Slanted eyes”
means “yellow people” and this form of ideological struggle has been
imposed upon us by the militant imperial bourgeoisie. China has developed the market
connection, economic strength and growing military capacity to halt this form
of ideological insanity.
I believe we are on the same page and paragraph.
I am a communist and as stated earlier have zero tolerance for populism in
any form. The consequence of populism was revealed in the American Union in the
1890s. My status as the most imperial of all imperial workers does not prevent
me from debating practical politics on the basis of my own history. Populism
is a non class hostile ideology and in the past has sought out a social basis
Communists are always compelled to compromise with their audience or we will
have no audience. Nevertheless, it is important that we adhere to a singular
line of march rooted in the world class alignment.
I am not the same person that come from mother, but then I am. The social
equation is complex but then again, it is not. The current leadership in China
cannot be characterized as bourgeois nationalists. China is not a colony,
semi-colony or neo-colonial state.
If you have the longest continuous written history and the most populous
country on earth, you can define terms describing engagement. The intelligencia in
the imperial centers object to this proposition. At the end of the day the
market of 1.3 billion peoples is going to alter our definitions of things. China’
s evolving computer industry and communications infrastructure means the
opening of a new arena/era of ideological struggle.
Thousands of Marxists in China need the proper international space to
consolidate a revolutionary program of action. The communist insurgent program of
action is very simple: “victory to the workers in their current struggle” and
this includes the struggle to restructure the economy of China. A Western type
and style of economy should be opposed. “Western type” is going to be defined
in the furnace of engagement. At the end of the day the communists in China
are going to define “Western” on the basis of property relations and social
forms expressing historically evolved property and the current configuration of
consumption. Over-consumption is by definition unsustainable and leads to the
death of a living organism.
The problem is that Marxists have had no way to describe and qualify
consumption. Consumption is being qualified as meaning the consistent sustaining of
our nutritional needs.
Marxists unravel the inner relations of things. Everything is involved in the
social equation. The communist revolution is the most radical in human
history. Philosophy itself is to fall under heavy assault. Did not Marx himself
state that the proletariat abolishes itself and philosophy?
Nevertheless it is important to deal with the here and now and emerging
We advanced communists workers and insurgent Marxists unconditionally support
revolution and insist upon our entitlement to conditionally support
multi-national state structures. We militantly support a policy of non-interference in
the internal affairs of multi-national states, while safeguarding our
entitlement to engage fellow communists in discussions and debates without regard to
In yesteryear, most of the communists and Marxists in the American Union
failed to grasp the complex social struggle taking place within the Soviet Union
and Nikita Khrushchev’s buffoonery. Nikita was a man of no personal merits much
less communist steadfastness. His crime against humanity is that he split the
communist movement and the Socialist camp and enlarged the political space
for the emergence of the non-class movements called the “Third World” struggle.
>From the standpoint of the communists and Marxists in the most imperial of
all imperial countries, these non-class movements are the internal content of
the Populist Movements in history. Within the American Union – since the 1890s, “
Modern Populism” is correctly identified as “fascism in disguise” and is a
political movement that prepares the social basis for reaction.
We await a description of “Modern Populism” by our comrade communists in
China. The ideological struggle is unavoidable and the communists throughout the
world must share their common experience and ideas.
Nothing shall be conceded to the imperialists on the ideological plane. There
exists a social basis to restructure what has passed for Marxism in the
Everything is involved. The world is not enough. An era of communist
revolution has opened and with it the destruction of all forms of property.
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