: [Marxism] Torture in US Prisons Equal to That at Abu Ghraib inIraq?

Tony Abdo gojack10 at hotmail.com
Sat May 8 00:31:56 MDT 2004

Damn, Mark!  There's method in US prisons to the torture there, too.  Don't 
think for a second there isn't, though the directors there of torture are 
not the CIA and Military Intelligence people.  They are called 'correction 
specialists' instead. Abuse in US prisons is not any more random than it is 
in Iraqi ones run by the US occupying forces.

The same faces of glee I see in the Abu Ghraib US soldier jailers, I have 
personally seen on the faces of jail guards attacking inmates inside Texas 
prisons.  They all line up behind each other 5-7 persons deep, and then 
start stomping up and down with their feet, batons slapping in hand, dressed 
in protective equipment, and chanting in rhythm together. Then they assault 
the prisoners in unison.  They pile on usually a single prisoner in his 
cell.  When they come out, the shit eating and sadistic grins on their faces 
are just identical to the ones on the US soldiers faces in those now famous 
photos we have been exposed to these last few days.   And they love to joke 
about the sexual victims amongst those prisoners they are entrusted to 
secure.   Don't think for a second that the guards don't arrange a lot of 
the brutality that is sluffed off as just being 'between prisoners'.

<<It's important to keep in mind the obvious differences between what
happens in US prisons and what's happened in Iraq.  There was real
method, I suspect, to the latter.

Government and media are discussing "abuse" as kinds of random acts of
sadism performed by the culturally unenlightened goobers-in-uniform
insensitive to the psychological weak spots particularly of Muslim men.
In fact, it seems pretty clear that this was all part of a general
effort to "break" the prisoners in an effort to get information.  True,
the military personnel administered and staffed these detention centers,
but those centers existed largely for civilian goons hired by DoD, CIA,
NSC, or some other ungodly Psy-Ops abomination to get information.  Such
characters are not only keenly aware to the cultural sensitivity of
Muslim men but will use that to break down their victims.

It makes complete sense to me that they encouraged the uniformed
military personnel to assist in the terrorization of the prisoners, even
when the questioners weren't around to supervise.  This interpretation
is rather reinforced by the feigned ignorance of Rummy and crew about
who was and wasn't in charge over there.

Mark L.>>

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