[Marxism] Re: The Latin American-US Realignment
gojack10 at hotmail.com
Mon May 10 18:23:09 MDT 2004
Julio Huato has adopted the pose of an outraged defender of Mexican
nationalism, and refuses to admit the obvious on everything. He challenges
the notions that many Mexicans favor "surrendering Mexico's policies to
Washington" as he puts it. But they already have on multiple matters, even
to many being in favor of modelling the entire Mexican political structure
on the US 2 Party System. But it doesn't stop there.
Mexicans as a whole, have supported their government joining in on the US
Drug War debacle. There has been little rejection of the increased US
training of the Mexican military, and the funding to fight this 'drug war'
inside Mexican territory for the US. Just as with the US public, the
Mexican public by and large has applauded the effort, while often
complaining about the way it is done. The feeling overwhelmingly is of
admiration for how the US fights the 'drug war', while being outraged at the
corruption within the Mexican police and military.
Mexicans want the US to play a bigger role in policing the Mexican police.
They have no confidence in their own national institutions of law and
lawmen, judges and politicians. Just as the US was seen as being a positive
force in ending the PRI dictatorship, the FBI is now seen as a positive
force in ending the reign of terror against women throughout Chihuahua. Let
the FBI come in!
Similarly, the Mexican govenment has leapt into policing immigration for
the US, and all within Mexican borders. So with drugs and immigration,
Mexico as a whole has had no political problem in selling the idea of
policing its own population in the name of 'law and order'. To do all of
this, Mexico has become the leader in sending its military to recieve US
military training along with all the Colombian generals and coronels. And
the Mexican miliatary and police operate as junior partners with La Migra
and the US Coast Guard in oppressing other foreign nationals who try to
cross Mexico in order to enter into the US. This is cooperation with US on a
very important matter.
Julio, bizarrely challenges the view that Mexicans in the Northern tier of
states are more conservative than those to the south! This, despite the fact
that the Mexican left has been strongest in Mexico City (a huge urban
environment of mass misery), Chiapas, Guerrero, Oaxaca, and Michoacan. What
would you have of us, Julio, a belief that the people of Sonora and Coahuila
are somehow equally against the US led neoiliberalismo as in the areas where
the Mexican left is stronger? It makes as much sense as if I said that
Oklahoma was as liberal as California!
The maqulladoras employ 1,000,000 plus workers in Mexico. Two thirds of
those are along the border. And each maquilladora job gives rise to another
3-4 dependent employments alongsidde the employee directly working inside
one of those companies. Whereas once the internal immigration was from the
ruaral areas to the capital, now it is simply towards the north. And
Mexicans know that without the US economy caputring the Mexican one
alongside it, the Mexican bourgeosie has little to offer them. In a sense,
the US is seen as almost defending the Mexican worker from his own native
capitalist class, both in the political arena, and the economic one. Not to
mention the legal one, too!
The widespread sentiment in the North is that native elite effort leads to
stagnation, poverty, despair, while being captured by the US leads to
progress, employment, and hope. The Mexican elite made a desert out of its
rural areas, and millions fled into cities where only a corrupt patronage
machine offered any sizable employment until the maquilladoras came along.
What do the Mexican elites seem to offer the people? The US offers
employment, both in the maquilladora and as an undocumented worker inside
the US. This has a conservatizing effect, and Julio knows this despite his
effort at outraged national pride.
Corresponding to this conservatizing effect within the Northern states of
Mexico, there has been a conservatizing efffect through all this economic
activity and growth on the Hispanic community within most parts of the US.
In Texas, the barricades are not really up at present between Anglos and
Tex-Mex at all. The traditional ultra economic stagnation along the Border
has totally changed. Wages stay down, but employment is way up from the
previous era. Young farm worker kids have grown up, and now they are
management types everywhere, with cell phones on constantly. When the
weekend comes, it's off to Reynosa or Matamoros for family time. Does Julio
think that this has no effect on attitudes towards the US within the North
of Mexico? It does, Comrade.
Tony Abdo wrote:
>Julio's comment below is basically false, because it implies that all
>thinking about the US, in widely different regions of Mexico, is much
JULIO <<Do you have *concrete evidence* that the views of people from the
in favor of surrendering Mexico's policies to the Washington? Not
anecdotes, concrete evidence. Show it. If not, at least try a persuasive
Of course people in different regions are different, have different
attitudes. Attitudes are complex things. You state that people from the
"north" are "more conservative as a general rule." I challenge that. They
are obviously conservative in some ways and progressive in other ways; but
as far as their political attitudes towards the U.S., they don't seem
inclined to surrender the control of their country's foreign policy to the
U.S. interest. Or prove me wrong.>>
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