[Marxism] re: papist plots

Einde O'Callaghan einde at gmx.de
Fri Apr 1 13:16:06 MST 2005

Tony Hartin wrote:

> jack cade wrote:
>> These days [Guy Fawkes night] seems to be eclipsed by the more commercial
>> Halloween.
> Dude, are u serious? I've been reliving my childhood re Guy Fawkes night 
> since moving to London from Australia. The prior weeks firework 
> crescendo in the East End feels like an approaching war. But maybe thats 
> Diwali.. never knew that connection
> Nov 5 got banned quite a longtime ago in Aus (i.e. the sale of fireworks 
> did in most states.. which amounted to killing the night). Growing up, 
> Nov 5 seemed like "one of ours", like St Paddys Day. Nowadays that I 
> know it was a right wing plot. However I am curious as to why its 
> persisted in the UK given that the ruling class has been Protestant for 
> the last 400 years or so
It survived because it was a celebration of Protestant triumphalism. 
They were celebrating the failure of the plot. That's why they burn the 
guy, i.e. an effigy of Guy Fawkes. Actually in the town of Lewes they 
traditionally don't burn a guy, they still burn an effigy of the pope!

Einde O'Callaghan

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