[Marxism] Re: Gallipoli - Anzad
Brian_Shannon at verizon.net
Mon Apr 25 22:12:41 MDT 2005
I've been trying to think of an analogy. It may appear rather strained,
but there may be some apt comparisons.
No group is more patriotic than American Indians or at least prouder of
being warriors for the United States.
They may be saying that even though the U.S. took away our land and
conquered us, they succeeded because they had more modern weapons and
there were more of them. It is a shame on them--not on us. We stand
tall and show them how real warriors fight. It is a statement of
courage in the face of a loss.
But how could that possibly compare to Australia and New Zealand, where
those who were sacrificed at Gallipoli were the sons of white
I don't think the comparison is that strained. You, the English along
with our complicit leaders, have used us for your aims. However, we are
showing you that we still stand tall. It was a qualified defeat for the
British Empire, but not for us as a people. The failure is yours, not
ours. We succeeded in spite of the failures of those who claimed to be
able to lead us because we showed courage without wavering.
Southerners in our Civil War share some of the same psychology. They
lost and in an ignoble cause, but they have to take something out of
Of course, the Indian struggle was not ignoble, but I'm suggesting that
there is a similarity in taking something out of defeat.
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