[Marxism] re: Marines died from small arms fire

m. hasan mhasanmd at gmail.com
Thu Aug 4 20:43:05 MDT 2005

Here is a link to a local Iraqi version of the story of what happened and 
led to the killing of the 14 marines. 
  The title is :
 [NYTr] Iraq: The True Scandalous Story Behind the 14 Killed Marines.

 On 8/5/05, M. Junaid Alam <alam1 at lefthook.org> wrote: 
> Brian is mixing things up. 14 Marines DID die from a roadside bomb to
> their amphibious assault vehicle. 6 died the day earlier from rifle
> fire. It's definitely a major humiliation to the Marines, since this was
> a sniper squad sent out to take out IED planters, and the insurgents
> isolated one of the Marines and killed him, and then killed the rest who
> were probably looking for him. And then the next day a massive IED goes 
> off.
> Anyway, in CQC infantry combat casualty ratios are probably always
> fairly even. The Marines aren't supermen or anything. If you follow the
> news reports you often see that a clash is "ended" when the ground units
> call in for artillery or air strikes, which is what makes all the
> difference.
> On a related note: why the HELL would you bring an amphibious assault
> vehicle to a desert?
> Another side note: does anyone else get the distinct impression that the
> people carrying out these attacks on soldiers have to be different
> people than the suicide bombers? The mainstream press ran some reports
> about insurgents' better IEDs and one of the things mentioned was that,
> to overcome the radio jamming the US uses to thwart remote IEDs, the
> rebels use wires long enough for them to be safely far away from the
> explision. That doesn't sound very suicidal-like to me.
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