[Marxism] Re: Cuba and state capitalism

Carl Webb carlwebb at gmail.com
Thu Aug 11 14:09:53 MDT 2005

Well not exactly.  I only make it a litmus test for Trotskyist. 
Incidentally someone told me the title of Leon Trotsky's book
"Revolution Betrayed" should have been translated as "Revolution
Deformed."  Has anyone heard of this mistranslation?  But anyway can
this very important topic be discussed without someone calling it a
flame war?  And speaking of Solidarity does anyone one want to discuss
the merits of supporting the restoration of capitalism in Poland and
the rest of the Soviet Bloc?


On 8/11/05, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:
> >Is a debate of state capitalism permitted?  I think I got banned from
> >the list for bringing this up.
> >
> >
> >Carl
> Carl, as I remember it, you were unsubbed because you were making Cuba some
> kind of litmus test for the left. We don't need litmus tests here. There
> are hardened positions on socialism in Cuba, the USSR, China that go along
> with party membership that many list members maintain. In the past, when
> debates have broken out over the appropriateness of "state capitalism",
> "degenerated workers state", etc. have rapidly become flame wars because
> they entail questions of betrayal, etc. I have tried to learn from
> Solidarity, which has taken the position that the "Russian question" is
> mainly of historical interest and should not be a criterion for building a
> revolutionary organization. I hope that answers your question.
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