[Marxism] John Holloway-Alex Callinicos debate
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Wed Aug 17 13:23:35 MDT 2005
ERKAL UNAL WROTE:
>Yes, it is true, we might get Stalin even if we do seize the existing
>state, one can not guarantee >it, but just strive to overcome it; yet
>Stalin's emergence can not be ascribed to the aim of >seizuring the
>existing state and using it, by changing its form, for the interests of the
>working class >and the downtrodden.
I agree completely. I was only criticising Calliinicos' clumsy way of
associating Stalin-ism with Lula-or-Mbekism (sic).
>Think Calvin might be referring to the original Russian Revolution, a
>mass movement that seized and smashed state power and still under the
>pressure of continued international capitalism, yielded to the Stalinist
Thanks, I was. I think Shane Mage is hopelessly wrong about Stalin, but I
won't get into it, since I can't be bothered.
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