[Marxism] Re: Cindy Sheehan quote (response to Yoshie)

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Wed Aug 17 19:34:51 MDT 2005

> From: marxism-bounces at lists.econ.utah.edu on behalf of Yoshie  
> Furuhashi
> Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 7:45 PM
> To: marxism at lists.econ.utah.edu
> Subject: [Marxism] Re: Cindy Sheehan quote (response to Yoshie)
> So, Cindy Sheehan did write and send the email message attributed  
> to her and she did say, "My son joined the Army to protect America,  
> not Israel," one of the statements at stake in Anderson Cooper's   
> question.
> * * *
> Yoshie,
> "I wrote the letter to Ted Bettag and cc'd a  copy to the person  
> who gave me Ted's address. I believe he changed the email and sent  
> it out to capitalize on my new found notoriety by promoting his own  
> agenda."
> Do you believe that Cindy is lying?

I believe that Cindy Sheehan is trying to put a spin on the situation  
that unfortunately does not jive with available evidence.  You see,  
the email message posted by Tony (not Ted Bettag) which contains her  
letter to ABC Nightline that the Wikipedia entry on her (at <http:// 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan>) leads visitors to is dated "Mar  
18, 8:33 pm," i.e. _long_ before the national media burdened her with  
her "new found notoriety" and Democratic Party consultants.

If you read her letter, btw, it's a very moving letter, and it seems  
quite authentic to me.  It sounds like her and millions of other  
liberal, leftist, and libertarian Americans.  I believe that she  
should embrace it, rather than repudiate it.


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Skeeter asked me to send our your letter to Nightline.  I did already  
and believe you got a copy, as below.  I added your name to the bull  
yard list, along with Judge P on the stuff I send out.  John Hibbs  
wrote how to sign up for bullyard even without ever sending it   
anything.  He is back and may write you again.  I notice he wrote you  
with great sympathy.  He, along with you and about three others in  
the Band, I would really love to meet personally.  I, like Skeeter  
who sends me about 10 emails (mostly cartoons) may be sending TOO  
much, as I think I tend to do.

Keep up your good efforts, and have a good weekend.  I hope to learn  
more about you: where you live, your family, work etc.  Time will tell.


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   That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here  
is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:

   Cindy Sheehan

   March 15, 2005

   To Whom it May Concern:

   Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I  
was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City,  
Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the  
side of the story that you presented to the American public.

   I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on  
01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel  
dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach  
this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR  
LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think  
the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.

   The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the  
wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear  
what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at  
war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal  
and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind,  
we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my  
son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane  
was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone  
connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one  
stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the  
hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm  
Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?

   A distraught father who lost his son was shown telling how much  
his life was so adversely affected. Why wasn't a mother (like me) who  
has been an outspoken critic of this war and of the President's  
policies interviewed for this piece? Why wasn't I given a chance to  
talk about 04/04/04 and the series of lies, mistakes and  
miscalculations that led to my precious oldest child's death??

   General Chiarelli was quoted as saying that 04/04/04 was a "wake  
up" call to the 2-5 Cavalry. If he thinks it was a "wake up" call,  
let me tell you how having 3 Army officers come to my door on  
04/04/04 and tell me that my darling son was KIA. I have learned so  
many details of that day and of my son's experience in Iraq.

   The very first thing that went wrong happened in November at Ft  
Irwin, California...the 2-5 Cavalry went for desert training. They  
received open desert warfare training and my son was killed in an  
urban guerilla attack, which he hadn't been trained for. Also, he was  
wearing an inadequate helmet and a Vietnam era flak jacket. Casey was  
stationed in a very dangerous place, like the General said: FOB War  
Eagle. I have subsequently learned that the soldiers of the 2-5 Cav  
who were stationed outside of Baghdad had Kevlar body armor. I have  
also found out that Casey slept in the back of his Humvee for the  
last 2 weeks of his life because there wasn't any room on post for  
him to have a cot. How tired and overworked was he before he went  
into that battle on 04/04/04?

   In addition, my son was killed after L. Paul Bremer inflamed the  
Shi'a by taking away their tv station and newspapers. The Abu Ghraib  
scandal was about to break in America...but it was well known by the  
Iraqi people that their citizens were being tortured and defiled in  
the prisons. My son was a sitting duck by the time 04/04/04 rolled  

   The very worst thing of all, is that my son was sent to rescue  
some fellow soldiers trapped in an ambush in the back of a  
LMTV..which is basically an open air trailer. It would be the  
equivalent of driving through Dallas on 11/22/63 in a Convertible.  
The troops stationed at FOB War Eagle were sent ahead of their tanks  
and Bradleys!!! They had to go into battle in the back of LMTV's and  
non-armored Humvees. This is just proof to me that our troops are as  
important to their leaders as bullets are. It is a small miracle that  
only 7 of them were killed in the ambush. Luckily for the rest of the  
moms, it was dark. After my son's murder, there was an article in  
Stars and Stripes that quoted one of Casey's superior officers as  
saying. "04 April taught us a lesson. We won't send soldiers to  
battle without their armor any more." How do you think that made me  
feel? It was like "OOOPS, your dear son was killed. Life happens. Oh  
well, you live and learn." The General was also quoted as saying that  
the insurgency "surprised" them. Why? Has there ever been an invasion/ 
occupation of a sovereign country that hasn't been resisted? Anyone  
with half a brain and an even rudimentary understanding of history  
would know that all occupations are resisted. The Pentagon and the  
Army brass did not plan adequately for an occupation.

   Then Gen. Chiarelli said the thing that upset me the most. He said  
that the loss of life was terrible, but at least Iraqis had elections  
on 01/30/05. With the continuuing insurgency and with Iraqis and  
Americans losing their lives everyday there, how can he be proud of  
that? I may remind you and the General, that Iraqi elections was not  
the reason that our President and his Neo-Con war mongers invaded  
Iraq with our precious human resources. I will give the two reasons  
given for the invaseion here: Saddam had WMD's and he was an imminent  
threat to America. Saddam could have WMD's on our shores within 45  
minutes. Condoleeza Rice used fear as a factor when she said: Don't  
let the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud. Rumsfeld and Colin Powell  
pointed out to us where the weapons were on a map.

   The second reason that America was given before the invasion was  
that Saddam was the biggest sponsor of world terrorism and he  
supported Osama Bin Laden! Oh really??? The hijackers were  
predominantly Saudi Arabian as was Osama (who is still at large, by  
the way). The theory that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 was  
disproven by the 9/11 commission's report. A huge factor in Americans  
believing all this bull is that our media..the Fourth Estate didn't  
do any research and expose the lies for what they were:  
justifications for invading a country that posed no imminent or long- 
term threat to America.

   One reason that the President DID NOT give for the invasion and  
occupation of Iraq was so that Iraqis could have elections. As a  
matter of fact, that was Ayatollah Ali al Sistani's idea..not Bush's.  
If the president in his lying and betraying in the lead up and rush  
to this insane invasion had told the world that we were going over  
there to give Iraqi's elections, would we the people have gone along  
with the invasion? Would we as compassionate Americans have thought  
that it would have been worth billions and billions of dollars;  
hundreds of our amazing children dead; tens of thousands of innocent  
Iraqi women and children dead: a country lying in ruins? I don't  
think so. I certainly didn't raise my son to be an outstanding  
citizen of the world to go and die so some people could have ink- 
stained fingers!!! If anyone reading this has children, would you  
think it was worth it?? Instead of some Congress leaders showing ink- 
stained fingers at the SOTU address they should have held up blood  
soaked hands.

   Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes,  
he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit  
Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I  
stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and  
this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the  
neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on  
9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for  
the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our  
middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America  
invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.

   It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another  
parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this  
administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the  
false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and  
integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.

   I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I  
was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being  
based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately  
because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments,  
or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from  
emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to  
speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable  
administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.

   Also, another aspect that Mr. Koppel refused to acknowledge was  
when a man walked up to a microphone and asked Richard Perle to  
explain PNAC..he was rudely ignored.

   I am so glad the First Cavalry came home from this senseless and  
needless war based on the imaginations of Neo-Cons and fought with  
ignorance and arrogance by the Commander in Chief and the Pentagon. I  
am thrilled for the mothers whose children didn't come home under the  
cover of darkness in flag-draped boxes like my son did. I am sure  
that some of Casey's buddies were able to walk off the plane because  
of his sacrifice. I am just so deeply sorry that my son's blood had  
to be their leaders' lesson in how to occupy a country and fight an  
insurgency. My son is dead forever and my joy has been robbed from me  
for the rest of my life.

   Your show needs to show both sides of this debate and stop being a  
propanda tool for this administration. This is my challenge to you  
from a true patriot who wants the lies exposed.

   Love and Peace!!!
   Cindy Sheehan
   Mother of Hero: Spc Casey Austin Sheehan KIA 04/04/04
   Casey's Peace Page
   Co-Founder of Gold Star Families For Peace


Yoshie Furuhashi
* Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: <http://montages.blogspot.com/2005/07/mahmoud- 
ahmadinejads-face.html>;  <http://montages.blogspot.com/2005/07/chvez- 
congratulates-ahmadinejad.html>; <http://montages.blogspot.com/ 

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