[Marxism] RED Cartoon
petars at hit.co.za
Thu May 5 03:49:19 MDT 2005
Hmmm aint so around here(south Africa). Poked around for Miller on the
web, I found this comic by Mark Millar Superman: Red son.
Basically Superman was brought up on a commune in ukrain instead of
Here is the link:
Carlos since you seem to know a bit about comics, do you know of any
left leaning computer games.
Carlos A. Rivera wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petar" <petars at hit.co.za>
>> I am getting it as well, this dose illustrate a point tho. There are
>> no comics/cartoons to counter USA main stream dribble(that I know of
>> at least).
> Even Frank Miller, famous for re-inventing Batman and the
> now-ever-so-trendy Sin City (ie THE top US comic producer), created
> the incredibly poignant-yet-comic-enough "Give Me Liberty" and "Martha
> Washington Goes to War", both about all that is wrong in the USA, and
> the Second Civil War it leads to (the third mini-series, "Martha
> Washington Saves the World" is not as good, but keeps the politics.)
> In short, Martha Washington (which was the name of George's wife) is
> an Afro-American woman who is born in the mid-90s in Cabrini
> Greene-Chicago, considered even today the most crime-ridden housing
> project (estate) in the USA.
> As she grows up she joins the US Army, first when a
> left-Democrat/Green gets elected, sends the Army to fight off
> hamburger companies who want to burn down the amazon, and then as the
> evil forces regain control of the empire, after the banning of meat as
> punishment to the thinly disguised McClone called "Fat Boy Burger",
> she keeps on the armed forces and fights in the civil war that
> desintegrates the USA, and creates a bunch of feuding states,
> including the Feminazi First Sex Confederacy, the Gay Nazis, Fat Boy
> Burger Army, and PAX, the remaining federal government.
> As the story progresses, Martha is faced with the reality she is
> figthing for the wrong side. Only a chance meeting with the "Ghosts",
> an eco-socialist (yes, they get called that in the book!!!)
> underground of invicibility suit-wearing revolutionaries, who have a
> socialist utopia hidded from view in the middle of the nuclear
> wasteland that was Oklahoma City (it sent chills up my spine when OK
> bombing happened as it was shortly after this book was released). In
> this socialist utopia, people solve greivances by hitting each other
> with special weapons and armor that allow them to vent anger without
> hurting each other, share equaly in responsability, there is no gender
> oppression, have alliances with the native american tribes, and kick
> the asses of the bad guys with the best and biggest weapons, including
> the cool cloaking divices...
> Yes I know its fantasy, but the "Eco-Socialism" is not a vague
> reference, but a complete worked out plot point in the thing. It is as
> if Miller were saying "Socialism or Barbarism". Powerful for 14 year
> And this is but one example. Comics have been one of the few spaces in
> which leftists ideas have had unabashed presence in the mainstream
> USA. Long before TV shows had it, mainstream comics had openly gay
> superheroes, black superheroes, etc etc etc.
> As to cartoons, the single most mainstream acceptable radical
> productions are the incredibly subversive cartoons produced, which are
> two numerous to name. Among my faves I count Bizaro and Tommy
> Tommorow, yet most newspapers carry usually left-leaning cartoons,
> which had led to an increasing number of right-leaning cartoons to
> combat the Cartoon Liberal Conspiracy or whatever the right call it...
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