[Marxism] Walmart and Costco

Carlos A. Rivera cerejota at optonline.net
Thu May 5 07:08:38 MDT 2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marvin Gandall" <marvgandall at rogers.com>

> You would think so, but I don't see any evidence - certainly not in the 
> the
> Bush administration or the Federal Reserve, and not in that wing of the
> Democratic Party representing the liberal bourgeoisie - of support for a
> "Keynsian turn".

Well, Cotsco, American Apparel and other growing companies "who do business 
differently" stand in contrast to that.

Yet I agree that this is far from a rule or even an emerging rule, which is 
why I insist on calling it a "section". The jury is still out, but as the 
NYT's article shows, this is not an insignificant, nor recent, development, 
and not one focused on idealism (beyond the certain marketing hype) but 
grounded on a material basis. Some capitalists simply refuse to sell us the 
rope with which to hang them. How successful will they be, well, the jury is 

Yet I think, by reading WSJ, NYT, FT, and The Economist (always a fun read, 
if you have a morbid sense of fun, like me), a picture emerges of a USA 
losing hegemony rather quickly, and adquiring economic characteristics more 
a kind to a developing country than to an imperialist country. The Great 
Depression is still used as a case study in major MBA programs, and I don't 
think all of the MBAs are of the style of GWB.

As to the conditions you expect for a "Keynesian Turn", well, I think you 
are ignoring some wildcard factors:

1) The emergence of a Chinese sphere of influence and economic development 
on par of that of the USA in a few decades.

2) The existing foreing policy of the USA, which even a Democratic 
administration will continue to pursue either because of ideological 
agreement or because of the old "we are too commited already" arguments.

3) A declining standard of living for the borderline high class. In 
particular, this class is hard hit by heavy in-debtness, as they depend on 
an investing, cash economy for survival. Lawyers don't generally take credit 

4) The crisis of the healthcare and insurance system, which is having a very 
negative impact (I personally know of cases of US doctors that have 70% of 
their revenues go to insurance and finance costs) on a whole tier of 
economic development.

Thats said, in the abstract I agree with your rather gloomy (for us) 
outlook, as it certainly seems to fit the reality we see. Yet all of these 
factors I think should be explored.


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