[Marxism] re: A critique of the 2005 Left Forum
javierunderground at yahoo.com
Tue May 10 23:09:26 MDT 2005
You seriously have over anaylized my comments. Your
polemics, at times, come from outer space. As far as
my "workerism" whatever that means, never came up. I
have alot of respect for certain intellectuals that
are not popular among young radical activist.
My main point was that the radicalism among young
people has not developed into a cohesive structure to
shape and effect society on a consistent basis.
Intellectual projects will be an important ingredient
in this process. But the intellectual projects that
could and will be meaningfull for young activist will
not carry the potentially significant role in the
movement if such an organizational structures do not
develop as well. As far as political periods go,
organizationally speaking the American left is weaker
than it it ever has been in its history. This is
something that young leftist academics have to come to
To put it simply, im more concerned with this problem
then I am with the age composition of academic
--- "M. Junaid Alam" <mjunaidalam at msalam.net> wrote:
> "Many are and dont really feel any connection to
> leftist graduate
> students. "
> You missed what I'm saying. Not that no young people
> outside grad
> schools are engaged *in* politics, but that no young
> people outside grad
> schools are engaged *by* the academic left, broadly
> speaking on an
> organizational-political level.
> But besides that, I don't agree with the sentiment
> behind your statement
> of "feeling no connection" with leftist grad
> students as some kind of
> fixed rule, nor do I agree with the similar kind of
> contempt behind your
> other statement, "All the young radical activist I
> know would never be
> interested in going to such an event even if those
> academics pleaded and
> begged them."
> Such militantly workerist posturing has never moved
> things forward an
> inch. Never ceases to amaze me how much Right
> ideology and attitudes
> penetrates the "Left" : Basically, you end up with
> this snickering
> contempt for existing leftists because they're often
> in the refugee camp
> of academia, as if this is the cause and not the
> symptom of leftist
> weakness. Ironic thing about this workerism, ie.
> doctrinaire Marxism, is
> that it shares with anarchism a kind of
> anti-intellectual attitude that
> insists on the uselessness of most analysis and the
> romanticization of
> simply "going among the people."
> This is an extremely ahistorical view. In the
> present period, we need
> only look at Venezuela, where the leftist military
> elements are
> radicalized in part because the junior officers
> enrolled in civilian
> college courses and linked up with those eggheaded
> leftist professors
> and intellectuals who helped supply them ideas and
> historical knowledge.
> Conversely, what kind of results did all the
> attempts of leftist
> grouplets to enter into the unions produce? Mainly,
> suicide and
> You start at where you are, not where you want to
> end up. Not all the
> academics are useless. The field imposes its own set
> of limitations, but
> above all it is the broader political climate which
> causes paralysis.
> And you're seriously mistaken if you think that
> ideology - that is, the
> battle over ideas - is not a major part of the
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