[Marxism] Re Peak Oil

Les Schaffer schaffer at optonline.net
Sun Oct 16 03:25:08 MDT 2005

Les Schaffer quoted:

>    Our interest in radiation damage effects comes from the problem of
>    safe handling of
>    radioactive materials that are of no use to us, but possess enough 

i am beginning to hate Thunderbird. attempts to format quoted material 
by indenting to the right brings the return of the damned staircase effect.

so much for high tech solutions???

speaking of waste handling, see the article in the NY Times today about 
garbage collection in New Orleans:

NEW ORLEANS - On one front lawn, a two-foot-high pile of debris stands 
where a hedge would normally be. A rusting mattress lies next to a 
bottle of cleaning fluid and a television set. The stench of paint 
combined with weeks-old food is choking. Flies hover over the whole 
thing, zeroing in on a handful of foil-wrapped chocolate eggs.

Piles of debris dot lawns and streets all over New Orleans, especially 
in parts of town where regular trash collection still has not resumed.

This is just one pile. There are thousands upon thousands of others, 
totaling 22 million tons of waste, according to state officials. They 
have baked in the swampy heat for weeks now, making this city look and 
smell like a landfill.

It is more trash than any American city produces in a year. It is enough 
to fill the Empire State Building 40 times over. It will take at least 
3.5 million truckloads to haul it away. "It is absolutely and completely 
revolting," Kathleen McGoey said on a recent day as she stood in front 
of a mound of Sheetrock, wicker chairs and moldy clothes outside an 
apartment building she owns.


It is the largest, and most complicated, cleanup in American history.

More than a month after Hurricane Katrina, the state and the Army Corps 
of Engineers, which has been assigned to coordinate the effort, have 
just begun trying to figure out how to sort the blanket of debris. There 
are probably thousands of tons of household chemicals like bleach and 
pesticides. There are toxic substances like Freon and mercury.

"What we have looking at us in the face isn't like anything we've seen 
before," said Jim Pogue, a spokesman for the corps. "We've got to get 
this out of here as soon as possible." But officials acknowledge that 
could mean months, if not years.

The corps has already awarded $2 billion in contracts to get rid of the 
waste in the region - more than three times the annual operating budget 
of the city of New Orleans. State officials predict that the cost could 
grow substantially.


les schaffer

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