[Marxism] Popular Front
cbrown at michiganlegal.org
Wed Oct 19 13:05:25 MDT 2005
Mark Lause _
Actually, Charles introduced Lincoln and the Republicans, as an example of a
great historic "front" of some sort that provided a precedent for the
popular front of the 1930s....
CB: You don't consider the alliance of the Abolitionists, Marx and Engels
with the Republicans as a great historic front ?
I only introduced the Civil War front because you introduced the earlier
radical fronts with Democrats as a historic bad precedent for fronts.
Louis is right on one level about the limits of historical continuity,
though, insofar as the structural issues remain the same, the pattern is
predisposed to reemerge.
My point is simple, on one level.
If you want the "legacy" of the Democratic Party's illustrious past,
CB: I pointed to the legacy of the _Republican_ Party during the Civil War ,
which was illustrious, as precedent for fronting with the Democrats in the
1930's. No cherry picking of the Dems.
shouldn't cherry pick the pretty rhetoric. If you want to embrace the
Democratic past have to take Jackson's slave shackles and FDR's
segregation, too. You can't cherry pick the niceties and then protest that
we're discussing historical matters. Btw, the same holds true for the CP.
CB: No need to cherry pick. It is a given that this is fronting with
imperfect forces. Otherwise it would be a United Front on the left.
If you want to pick and choose what you want like in the Democratic past and
ignore the rest in order to rationalize voting Democratic...well, you might
as well be a member of the Christian Right voting Republican.It's the same
Insofar as there is real continuity in all this, the two-party structure has
made the Democratic Party the graveyard of insurgent movements. And this
process started as soon as it got underway...and it hasn't stopped.
CB: It's not the Democratic Party. It's bourgeois parties. RP wasn't a
graveyard of the Abolitionist movement. FDR Dems were not the graveyard of
the war against fascism.
I don't see much reason to rationalize the course of the Great American
Serial Killer of third parties or its accomplices who helped immobilize and
hold down the designated victims.
CB: Republicans were the third party in the Civil War era. CP supported
Progressive Party and ran its own candidates.
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