[Marxism] Communist capitalism
srcsra at scu.edu.au
Wed Apr 5 00:45:38 MDT 2006
>Actually, I'm not "hanging out" with any ISO nor do I care about crap
like "state-cap inevitabilist" and similar jargon<.
I wasn't really referring to your social habits and am sorry to
inflict painful jargon upon you Junaid (can a phrase I just made up
be, technically, jargon?), the point though I was surprised at you
expressing the view that any revolution not immediately supported
around the globe is doomed in short order.
>Basically, you totally missed my point, which was that NEP was a
>concession to a real-world situation of capitalist hegemony<.
Well this point has merit, but previously you wrote something quite
different, by agreeing with the proposition that "the NEP meant the
end of revolutionary government in the Soviet Union", i.e. the NEP,
in itself, was a counter-revolutionary thing to do. However the
specifics of the NEP were conditioned by the unexpectedly
unfavourable circumstances the Soviet government found itself in by
1921, the facts are that for an underdeveloped country, even with
international support, some kind of market relations are going to be
necessary for a period: unless you belive in Stalinist-Pol Potist
collectivisation by machine-gun.
Therefore, for me, market relations in Cuba and Vietnam do not in
themselves prove the governments there are counter-revolutionary. Of
course there's huge pressures that will undoubtedly mean these
revolutionary regimes will eventually be overthrown one way or
another without international help.
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