[Marxism] What the hell has happened to the Israeli army?
critical.montages at gmail.com
Tue Aug 15 09:28:25 MDT 2006
On 8/14/06, Marvin Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca> wrote:
> Yoshie writes:
> > Now, Avnery's claims that there is no military solution, that the IDF
> > won't defeat the Palestinians, etc. may turn out to be incorrect, but
> > it is not morally wrong of him to hope that the Israeli public will
> > eventually prefer a political solution -- "land for peace" -- to a
> > military solution. IMHO, such a political solution is not possible in
> > the near future, given the bipartisan Israeli commitment to the Jewish
> > state from the sea to the river (and maybe even beyond), but Avnery's
> > hope for a two-state solution is still widely shared, even among the
> > Palestinians.
> There certainly appears to be a bipartsan consensus in Israel at present
> that a military solution is still possible - if it is more massive in scope.
> But wishing, don't necessarily make it so.
> What military alternatives are left?
Bombing Iran. Whether that will "solve" anything is immaterial to the
key holders of power in Tel Aviv and Washington.
> The Israelis can take the next step and try to ethnically cleanse the
> Palestinian territories. But this will simply move the boundires further
> back without resolving the problem of cross-border attacks and the
> inevitable longer-range rocketing of Israeli cities.
Wouldn't it be interesting if the Palestinians actually made Jordan a
Palestinian state, as was dreamt in the Elon plan:
> But the only
> demonstrated effect of each of these invasions has been to demonstrate
> US-Israeli military weakness rather than strength, to demoralize their home
> fronts, and to embolden and stiffen the resolve of the Islamist movements
> and regimes.
The home fronts in Israel and the USA do not appear demoralized. In
any case, with the kind of war Tel Aviv and Washington are fighting,
the home fronts just have to acquiesce to them, rather than actively
Lastly, military and political "solutions" are not mutually exclusive.
War is merely politics by other means. They fight their wars so as
to create consensus for their political "solutions" as the lesser of
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