[Marxism] Islamic state in North Eastern USA

Pieinsky pieinsky at igc.org
Sun Aug 20 21:34:49 MDT 2006

Well, yes and no to Nestor.  In the early Mass. Bay colony, only male church 
members -- i.e., those who had had a Puritan-approved conversion 
experience -- could vote.  The British eventually stepped in and put an end 
to that.  Certainly, Puritanism was ideologically hegemonic in many 
respects; dissenters like Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams were "harried" 
out of the colony, and Quakers who dared show their faces in Boston were 
sometimes hanged.  But it was not a theocracy in the sense that the 
ministers or theologians had a political ruling function as with the Grand 
Ayatollah and Council of Guardians in Iran.  The former did not hold 
political offices of any sort.  There was a sort of division of church (one 
church) and state in other respects as well.  Indeed such functions as 
weddings thought by so-called "traditionalists" today to be within the 
proper and exclusive purview of God and his representatives on earth were 
civil rather not religious ceremonies in early Puritan society.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Hoover" <mhhoover at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Islamic state in North Eastern USA

> On 8/20/06, Nestor Gorojovsky <nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar> wrote:
>> Wasn't the Massachussets Plantation "a theocracy ruled by spiritual
>> rather than temporal authority" for quite long a time?
> <<<<<>>>>>
> 9 of the original 13 U.S. states had official religions prior to
> independence: Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire were
> Puritan; Georgia, Maryland, New York, North and South Carolina, and
> Virginia were Anglican.  Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Rhode
> Island had no established religion. The last state to disestablish was
> Massachusetts, in 1833.
> Michael Hoover
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