[Marxism] Yoshie's evolution

Jerry Monaco monacojerry at gmail.com
Sat Dec 2 09:55:33 MST 2006

On 12/2/06, Louis Proyect <lnp3 at panix.com> wrote:
> About a month ago, I invited Yoshie back to the list. She didn't even
> answer my email. My first reaction was that she felt too insulted to
> rejoin. Over the ensuing month, I have modified my views. I now
> believe that she has begun to throw whatever Marxist baggage she once
> had overboard and has no interest in defending the kind of views here
> that she is now putting forward on Doug's list or on PEN-L. This is
> how she began a post titled "Time to Get Religion":
> "The Marxist tradition once had a world view, a world view (more
> specifically a philosophy of history) of inevitable dialectical
> progress, from pre-capitalism, to capitalism, to socialism, the world
> view that the Marxist tradition borrowed in part from Christianity
> and in part from liberalism. It no longer does, though it remains
> useful as it supplies a theoretical framework and analytical tools.
> Since the world view of inevitable dialectical progress was manifestly out
> of this world, the Marxist tradition, as a theory, may be said to
> have improved as a result of the loss of that world view."
> full:
> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20061127/023932.html
> Reading this, I really have to scratch my head and ask what kind of
> Marxism she had been reading to reach this conclusion. Daniel DeLeon?
> God only knows.
> Louis,

I am a very hazy on my arcane Marxist history. But didn't these ideas come
up before?  I'm specifically thinking of the idea of "god-building" and
Russian Marxists such as Bogdanov who were fascinated with the
physicist-philosopher Ernst Mach? Didn't they believe that a "proletarian
philosophy" had to be built in such a way to provide a "God-substitute" and
propagating a teleological goal to history?  I seem to remember some of this
stuff from reading Lenin at age 16.

If my memory is correct, I wonder if Yoshie has any idea that she is
repeating part of an historical argument circa 1905?

Jerry Monaco

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