[Marxism] A devolution of friendly nominations

Nestor Gorojovsky nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar
Tue Dec 12 16:22:43 MST 2006


Dear Gary, long ago you nominated yours truly for honorary 
Irishmanship. Now, I nominate you as a honorary Jew in the best 
tradition of revolutionary Jews.

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> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:09:22 +1000 (EST)
> From: g.maclennan at qut.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Israel and US
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> >Carlos wrote:
> 
> I don't believe in conspiracies theories or the assertion that the US
> is doing Israel's wars.  On the contrary, I believe Israel is an
> "agent" of US imperialism in the Middle East.
> 
> My Comment:
> 
> Of course this is essentially correct but there is a complex dynamic
> at work. Israel as it is would not exist but for the compacts that
> Zionism made with imperialisms such as the British, the French and now
> the Americans.
> 
> That as Hannah Arendt pointed out also doomed Israel to be forever
> surrounded by victims who would become enemies. Uri Avneri has also
> drawn attention to this.  So Israel is for ever to be a terror state -
> the attack dog of imperialism. Not something that was explicitly part
> of the original Zionist mission.
> 
> The inevitable consequence is that what is bad for the Imperialist
> Centre (America) is bad for Israel and that accounts for the
> nervousness in Israel over the looming defeat of the American army in
> Iraq.
> 
> But the allies of American imperialism are not confined to Israel. The
> ruling Arab elites are all pro-American and they too are nervous over
> the Iraq disaster.
> 
> What though of the charges that support for Israel is against American
> interests? or that the neo-Conservatives are more pro-Israel than
> pro-America.  I think this has to be understood in terms of a reaction
> to the failures of American imperialism while the neo-cons were on
> watch.
> 
> It is also nostalgia for the good old days when Golda Meir would quote
> the anti-Semitic ravings of the King of Saudi Arabia while the latter
> claimed to be concerned about the fate of the Arabs at the hands of
> the Israelis. Both were seemingly enemies but at heart both were
> avatars of American imperialism.
> 
> It was the neo-Cons who dreamed of a new American hegemony without
> compromises with political dinosaurs such as the Saud Royal Family or
> the likes of Suharto in Indonesia. They were flushed with fantasies of
> neo-liberal economics being let loose (freedom) with control of the
> mass media guaranteeing success in elections (democracy).
> 
> Instead they may get real freedom and real democracy as the Arab
> revolution matures. And in turn that will inevitably mean the demise
> of the Israeli state as it now exists.
> 
> regards
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 



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Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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