[Marxism] "United" Sectariat

Joaquín Bustelo jbustelo at bellsouth.net
Sun Jan 8 09:43:38 MST 2006

Luko says, "Just a short note: there is no longer a "United
Secretariat". The last (or before last) World Congress decided that the
reunification is now so long away (and maybe also because the main force
of that other reunifying current is no longer with them) that they could
drop the reference to it and simply call it the International

Yes, thanks, I had read that as some point, the funny thing is the old
link is still the top (unpaid) item when you Google IV: 

International Viewpoint
Official journal of the United Secretariat of the Fourth International
www.internationalen.se/sp/ivp.htm - 1k - Cached - Similar pages

But the link just takes you to a redirect page for a new page which is
also listed:

International Viewpoint - News and analysis from the Fourth ...
International Viewpoint is a monthly review of news and analysis
published under
the auspices of the United Secretariat of the Fourth International.
www.internationalviewpoint.org/ - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

But those USec references don't appear on the rendered pages. Looking at
the html code, you find this:
<meta name="description" content="International Viewpoint is a monthly
review of news and analysis published under the auspices of the United
Secretariat of the Fourth International."> I guess Google picks that up.

Someone needs to update the metadata for the web site.

It is actually more than 30 years out of date. A "United" Secretariat
I'm sure seemed like a good idea at the time, but it *never worked.*

On the *politics*, what happened is that the reunification failed. The
differences that were seized on in 1969 to relaunch the transatlantic
dispute by a couple of years later had led to the emergence of two rival
international centers. The LTF minority further subdivided into the U.S.
SWP with its Communist microleagues satellites (probably it would be
more accurate to say nanoleagues), I believe every last one in
imperialist countries, and mostly English-speaking; Moreno's operation,
essentially a 2nd edition of SLATO (initials for Latin American
Secretariat of Orthodox Trotskyism) and the Australians, who were a new
party and of all the folks involved seem to have been the only ones to
realize that the whole idea of a simon pure "Leninist" international
wasn't a good one given current conditions.

Never mind that reunification also didn't involve two other (relatively)
strong groups from the 1953 split, the Lambertistes and the Healyites,
not the left state cap or bureaucratic collectivist tendencies that
refused to become social-democratic from the 1939 split.

It seems to be a rule that there is basically
one-strong-party-per-international, in "Leninist" ones at any rate.


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