[Marxism] Ahmadinejad, an Islamic Feminist (was Reflections on Iran)

Yoshie Furuhashi critical.montages at gmail.com
Fri Jul 21 23:28:52 MDT 2006


On 7/22/06, Einde O'Callaghan <einde at gmx.de> wrote:
> Louis Proyect schrieb:
> >
> >> I'm not certain that this is a particularly good argument against
> >> Yoshie's position. It sounds considerably less restrictive than the
> >> practice in most of the US and is certainly less restrictive than in
> >> Ireland, which, whatever it is, certainly isn't some sort of
> >> clerico-fascist theocracy, as many on the left seem to categorise Iran.
> >>
> >> Einde O'Callaghan
> >
> >
> > Einde, I am not sure what you are getting at. Women in the USA can get
> > an abortion without any such restrictions. In Iran, you have to get a
> > doctor's note proving that the foetus has some kind of serious handicap.
> > I don't know about Ireland.
> >
> Maybe on a purely legalistic level, but as far as I can judge from the
> coverage here and various items posted here and elsewhere this isn't the
> case in a large proportion of the US, e.g. rural North Dakota.
>
> In Ireland abortion is only legal if the mother's life is threatened and
> even then there is the difficulty of finding a doctor and nursing staff
> willing to do an abortion - although due to the more liberal abortion
> laws in Britain (though not Northern Ireland) the real abortion in
> Ireland is similar to that in Britain (i.e. Irish women travel to
> Britain to get abortions).
>
> Einde O'Callaghan

Abortion laws have been constantly changing, generally in the
direction of putting more and more restrictions on women's right and
access to abortion, in the United States.  The US being afflicted with
federalism, women's right and access to abortion, as well as almost
everything else, vary greatly from one state to another.  Here's an
overview of restrictions on abortion in the USA:
<http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_OAL.pdf>.

It seems to me, though, that comparing the USA and Iran would be
comparing apples and oranges.  Iran's abortion law is more restrictive
than the USA's, but Iran is inferior to the USA in many respects, from
per capita income to infant mortality rate.  Life is generally much
easier for women in the richest nations -- the USA, the EU, and Japan
-- than in the rest.

I published Muhammad Abu Nasr's translation of Hasan Nasrallah's address:
<http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/nasrallah150706.html>.

This is what one of the men who commented on Nasrallah's address said:

<blockquote>Where is the materialist critique here? Speaking of
reactionary commentary, why is a so-called socialist/marxist website
passively supporting extremist religious groups??? Where is the report
about how the working class on both sides is being fucked over by
their leadership? There isn't going to be a working class left in the
region if we are to support Hezbollah.

And to be blunt, if I had a choice of being dominated by the G8 or by
an Islamic theocracy, I'd take my chances with the G8 - at least I'd
have my hands.
Andrew | 07.17.06 - 11:11 am | #
<http://www.haloscan.com/comments/yoshie/nasrallah150706/#132988></blockquote>

Should we support Israel
<http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion/doc/israel.doc>
and the United States against Lebanon
<http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion/doc/lebanon.doc>, Syria
<http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion/doc/syrianarabrep.doc>,
and Iran
<http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/abortion/doc/iran.doc>?
 After all, their abortion laws are still better, though not as good
as in many social democratic European nations!  Have I mentioned that
the former have more gay rights than the latter?

BTW, what's Nasrallah's opinion about abortion?
-- 
Yoshie
<http://montages.blogspot.com/>
<http://mrzine.org>
<http://monthlyreview.org/>




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