[Marxism] Re: Socialist Alliance DSP front well to the back.
srcsra at scu.edu.au
Mon Mar 13 18:13:28 MST 2006
>The serious point here is that the absurd claims made by the SA and
>the Democratic Socialist Perspective/Party that they have strong
>influence in the union movement and are recognised as the leaders of
>all sorts of struggles stand in the greatest possible contrast to
>and are in fact disproven by the vanishingly miniscule vote the SA
>manages to garner<.
For people who don't let sectarian axe grinding get in the way of a
passing acquaintance with history and social reality this vote is not
at all unsurprising or particularly damning. The Communist Party of
Australian, when it had 10 000 members and *controlled numerous
unions* (from 40s till 60s or even 70s), got very small votes in most
bourgeois elections, often if not usually losing its deposit (i.e.
less than 4%). Workers trusted their union militancy much more than
their whole program.
Greg offers us a typical sectarian verbal, seemingly learned in the
Bob Gould School of Falsification, by stating there are some kind of
claims that DSP and/or SA "have strong influence in the union
movement and are recognised as the leaders of all sorts of
struggles". Of course no-one has said this, and our learned lawyer
comrade doesn't bother to quote anyone. "Modest" would be a much more
accurate word in what people involved in SA have actually said rather
than "strong", and it is quite modest, even c.f. the CPA in the early
However it's all relative, and modest strength, and less modest
strength than the far left has had in about 20 years, is better than
non-existent strength, which is what makes SA worthwhile. BTW the
claim that it was ever principally an electoral front was a schema
of the ISO and a tiny minority of other members.
Recently a petition SA initiated calling on the ACTU to call a
national stoppage against the IR laws was enthusiastically taken up
by many union bodies, officials and activists, and garnered as far as
we know 5000-10000 signatures. It was a real material factor (among
other things of course) in pressuring the ACTU tops to call action in
June rather than wait till the end of the year, which they had
previously given every indication of. A modest success to be sure,
but a result of real, if modest, strength. What exactly are you
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