[Marxism] Voting in Australia -tale of 2 states.

Gregory Martin justanothersocialist at gmail.com
Sat Mar 18 17:49:13 MST 2006

if your point is not to flog a dead horse, then why are you still at it.

we have a small but active branch here on the gold coast (getting away
from some of your gross generalisations we do not currently have any
DSP members).

as a member, i see our branch as one group that is part of a larger
political project.

at a time when a paternalistic sense of cynicism and fatalism rules
(reproducing an oppressive division of labour), i think its an
incredible achievement to get people to come together in solidarity
and struggle.  no doubt mistakes will be made but at least we're not
sitting back and trimming our toe-nails (or rehashing shop-worn
debates about the DSP).

get over yourself mate.

On 3/18/06, Ggregray at aol.com <Ggregray at aol.com> wrote:
> State elections were held today (Saturday 18 March) in Tasmania and South
> Australia
> The incumbent Labor  Party governments  were returned in both States. In
> South Australia there was a swing of about 11% to Labor. In Tasmania there was
> about a 2% drop in the Labor vote and a similar drop in the Greens vote. However
> Labor is still expected to win a clear majority of seats.
> Commentators on the election have noted that a strong part of the Labor
> campaign in South Australia was that a victory for Labor would be a means of
> workers being protected from the draconian industrial relations regime being
> introduced by the Federal Liberal (actually  conservative) Government. Possibly it
> will look at taking action like the Labor Government in New South Wales has done
> and make public service workers direct employees of the state to remove them
> from the reach of the Federal Governments new laws.
> Workers across the country face a continued struggle against those laws and
> part of that should be a strong demand on Labor in SA to live up to its claim
> to being able to protect workers' interests. The DSP front organistion the
> Socialist Alliance claims to be a leading force in the fight against the Liberals'
> new laws. That this is just one of the delusional beliefs  it holds is again
> demonstrated by the support its candidates won in the two state elections.
> In the seat of Port Adelaide in South Australia the SA candidate had a vote
> of 169 or 1.4% of the valid votes so far counted. In Tasmania the DSP/SA ran
> candidates in two seats In Franklin its candidate got 225 votes out of 55,751 or
> 0.40% of the votes so far counted and in the seat of Denison  the DSP/SA got
> 198 votes out of a total of 50,695 so far counted or 0.39%. All the figures I
> have quoted are not final but it is highly unlikely that the percentage of the
> votes will change in any significant way.
> The point of noting these results is not to flog a dead horse. It is just a
> way of underlining the fact that when DSP/SA loyalists such as John Tongolini
> replied to my previous postings with the claim that the SA is"going from
> strength to strength" such claims are ridiculously remote from reality.
> The SA  as dominated by the DSP has proven to be dead end for the left in
> Australia . Its use is as an example for active socialists in how not to build a
> unified leadership in the struggle.
> Greg Adler
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