[Marxism] Do you agree or disagree with the following proposition

Rod Holt rholt at planeteria.net
Sun Mar 26 18:10:55 MST 2006

I question that necessity is the basis for the scientific nature of 
historical materialism. M & E strove to extract laws from an examination 
of history. These laws they believed could be verified (or falsified) by 
further examination of history, and in particular, by searching out and 
indentifying the forces producing the history (and the forces producing 
the changes in those forces, and the changes in those changes, etc.) It 
was this process -- most distinctly a process -- that justified the use 
of the words "scientific socialism."

As far as biological necessity goes, Darwin opened the door to the 
notion that when the necessary collapses for one life form, it often is 
the opportunity for another life form. I can't imagine M & E questioning 
this line of thinking.

Charles Brown wrote:

>Do you agree or disagree with the following proposition:
>Production and economic classes are the starting point of Marxist analysis
>of human society, including in the Manifesto, because human life, like all
>plant and animal life must fulfill biological needs to exist as life at all.
>Marx and Engels are looking for _necessity_  to put historical materialism
>on a scientific basis. In human biology there is necessity, things that must
>be done.
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