[Marxism] Re depends on what you mean by hard

robert montgomery ilyenkova at gmail.com
Wed Nov 15 16:54:50 MST 2006


>>I agree. The problematical word isn't "hard." It's "truths."
--Kevin

I've avoided this on the ssumption that the scientific orientation of
list members eventually would assert itself in the matter of a former
Marxist who, now singing the praises of his Holiness the Dalai Lama,
has gone public with recovered memories of sexual childhood abuse at
the hands of a conviently deceased father. But as some insist on
flogging Herbert Aptheker's memory, it's necessary to point out
something obvious to anyone who can Google: There's not a single
psychiatric or psychological association in North America or Europe (I
didn't search farther) that accepts the scientific validity of RMS.
The following citation from the APS is offered as typical of the
public positions of the scientific psychological associations:

"On 2001-JUN-14, the American Psychological Society awarded the
William James Fellow Award to Elizabeth Loftus, who holds the title of
distinguished professor of psychology at the University of California,
Irvine.  She is a Fellow of the Committee for the Scientific
Investigation of the Paranormal. In 2002-April, "the Review of General
Psychology ranked her 58th among the top 100 psychologists of the 20th
century. The list includes such luminaries as Sigmund Freud and B.F.
Skinner. Loftus was the top-ranked woman on the list. She also ranked
among the 25 psychologists most frequently cited in introductory
psychology textbooks."
The award citation said, in part:

"Elizabeth Loftus is an example of the rare scientist who is
instrumental both in advancing a scientific discipline and in using
that discipline to make critical contributions to society..."

"Over the past 15 years, Dr. Loftus's attention has turned to a
related but considerably more controversial issue, that of the
validity of "recovered memories" of childhood abuse. As a result of
her pioneering scientific work as well as her activity within the
legal system, society is gradually coming to realize that such
memories, compelling though they may seem when related by a witness,
are often a product of recent reconstructive memory processes rather
than of past objective  reality."

"In bringing to light these facts of memory, Dr. Loftus has joined the
ranks of other scientists, past and present, who have had the courage,
inspiration, and inner strength to weather the widespread scorn and
oppression that unfortunately but inevitably  accompanies clear and
compelling scientific data that have the effrontery to fly in the face
of dearly held beliefs."
Hard enough for ya??
RM




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