[Marxism] The absence of real forces
sabocat59 at mac.com
Thu Aug 2 05:27:45 MDT 2007
"Another important point is deepening awareness about the environmental
adversity being caused by capitalism. Again, workers may understand
that, among all the classes in the USA, they are likely to be impacted
most severely by this, because, relatively speaking, they are becoming
more impoverished compared to the US bourgeoisie.
These things can all provide socialists with potential openings to
make their case."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me the point Joaquin is
making here is that the solution to the environmental crisis will of
necessity require a decrease in consumption across the board, both
inside the US and among other countries still seeking to "catch up"
to our level of ridiculously absurd conspicuous consumption. This, of
course, will not be a popular message among the working and middle
classes, who still seek to mimic the consumption patterns of their
well-heeled masters. As Joaquin wrote, the biosphere is increasingly
fragile and the world's resources are limited.
Although he did not spell it out, it is also quite clear that what is
needed is a different sort of relationship with nature, a
qualitatively distinct eco-friendly infrastructure and mode of
resource extraction than one based on an imperialist project or a
traditional autarkic turn within. To wit: A new industrial
revolution based on green ideas and technology, thus the need for
theoretical work to develop the technology necessary for the leap
into eco-socialism. Of course, the distinction between use and
exchange value needs to be made quite forcefully in this context, and
the creation of new needs will be, not in order to sell new products
on the market, but to protect the ecosystems we depend on for our
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